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Posted By: IanL
Subject: Guitar talk
Date Posted: 05-October-2006 at 19:36
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How about starting a thread to discuss guitar
related topics with a Grove twist: favourite solos, favourite musicians, anecdotes, trivia leaning towards the stuff played at the Grove but potentially venturing beyond those boundaries  - old artists, new artists,
tabs (for players) .. air guitar techniques (if such a thing exists  )
Anyone up for it ? 
------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
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Posted By: star
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 00:12
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Guitar solo in "Stairway To Heaven" legendary stuff! ------------- Never Again on a school night! Famous last words |
Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 00:38
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Agreed ...almost goes without saying.
It's sublime Star ! Played it on a strat in studio and on the double necked Gibson 6/12 string live. I got to see Page/Plant live in Fremont bowl in North Ca around about 1999. To be honest I had gone off Zep (sacrilege I know) and a friend who I'd worked with in Shannon who was a lifelong Zep fan dragged me along. Super show. ...Born again Zeppelin fan after that ! ------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: Hayseed Dixie
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 09:42
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I read somewhere recently that the guitar solo in Stairway had been compiled from a couple of different solo's that Jimmy Page had recorded and then spliced together in the studio, and that if you listen closely it is possible to hear the join. Apparently he had to "learn" the solo when he played it live for the first time. Another useless but interesting titbit..hehehe!! Even though I would be a much bigger fan of Zeppelin..I'd have to say that probably my favourite solo would be from Lynyrd Skynyrd's Freebird...would also rate almost any Carlos Santana solo as well....but I'd have to say that Freebird has probably caused me more neck strains than any other.  ------------- Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again. - (Henri Cartier-Bresson) |
Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 11:50
OMG yes. Freebird - the stuff of legends. .... the classic crowd pleaser. Rooted in Allman brothers tradition. 3 guitarists played it live and one layered it in studio. Whiplash inducing stuff indeed  ------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Hayseed Dixie wrote:Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 11:53
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I meant to mention .. it was Russ's idea to start
a guitar thread. I've kinda jumped the gun by starting it. Hope ya don't mind Russ. Anything goes here .. As these discussions usually evolve ... We might start out talking about classic solos and wind up talking about listening to strains of sitar in a Hare Krishna tent in Lisdoonvarna or similar ------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: finno
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 12:50
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Brian Robertson "So in Love with You" Live and Dangerous Thin Lizzy
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Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 13:12
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I'm sure you'll get thumbs up from Rolo on that one
Finno ! The Live & Dangerous version (which Cecil played at Grove) is so-o-o-o much more atmospheric than the studio one, I think. The heavy delay effect and maybe volume pedal effects are super. I was always in awe of that solo. 
I'm guessing it was Robbo who composed and improvised the original version and Gorham joined him in the live version. Another classic solo which always rings in my ears is the Reeling in the Years/Steely Dan solo. It's so evocative of that particular era and of great lead playing in general ! ------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: Hayseed Dixie
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 14:25
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Just thought of another one I really like too...and is one those that I at least always kinda mime/hum/make this high pictched squeaky attempt at mimicking when I listen to it..is Comfortably Numb by the Floyd... There are some guitar players that I always recognize immediately..and David Gilmore would be one...he just has a style of his own that is instantly recognizable...another one I can think of right away would be Brian May of Queen. The Thin Lizzy guitar sound is fairly unique in my opinion too...but I'm not sure which of their many guitarists would be most responsible for that sound...? ------------- Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again. - (Henri Cartier-Bresson) |
Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 14:37
Hey HD - I'd say the guitar sound most associated with Lizzy was crafted by Brian Robertson when he joined Scott Gorham and introduced the dual guitar harmony lead stuff into their repertoire. Was around 1974 and Robertson was only a teenager at the time. ------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: Hayseed Dixie
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 14:43
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How about that for service...query answered already... Who needs Google...  Thanks Ian ------------- Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again. - (Henri Cartier-Bresson) |
Posted By: Black Russian
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 15:00
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I agree with the above. Stairway to heaven Freebird and Still in Love. Now I have a great version of Smoke on the Water. Rithie Blackmore has to be added in there and Also Slash on November Rain and One by Metalica(That a song really hurts your neck) Ok they don't beat the legends above but damn good ------------- "Legal downloads is killing Piracy" http://www.flickr.com/groups/th |
Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 15:02
Actually before this descends into pure guitar nerdtalk ... I'll change topic ever so slightly ... Any Neil Young fans out there ? I see there is a new Jonathan Demme movie "Heart of Gold" just released as a music documentary on Neil Young. I'd love to see it. I think Demme was same guy who directed "Stop Making Sense". I'd be surprised if it's being shown anywhere in Mayo but I'd love to see it.... Favourite Neil Young track anyone .. ? ------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 15:03
Hi Pete, Richie Blackmore's solo on Highway star is also out of this world.... -Ian ------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: Hayseed Dixie
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 15:06
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Heard a review of it on Newstalk this morning Ian..Henry Cabot Beck..and he said it was a brilliant concert film/docu and well worth going to see if you are remotely interested in music and nigh on a given if you are a Neil Young fan..which I most certainly am...Mr Young is one of my heroes...for the way he has conducted his career and stuck to his principles unlike many other "great" musicians. My favourite track would probably be Cortez The Killer from Zuma...but there are so many to choose from that I'd probably change that tomorrow.... ------------- Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again. - (Henri Cartier-Bresson) |
Posted By: Black Russian
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 15:14
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Never really got into Neil Young and I did try cause I wanted to be part of the gang. Never done it for me.. BUT and a big BUTTT I have started listening to him a wee bit now and like the stuff. Whether I like him or not he deserves to be up there with the credible artist... Oh I also don't like Bob Dylan or Eric Clapton or the Eagles.. Ian getting back to Richie Blackmore he is great live stuff on Deep Purple album and Rainbow excellent. I think Rainbow was my first step into rock music. My brother had "Catch the Rainbow" live version and "Stairway to Heaven" live on an audio cassette that when I heard them. Then I strayed and got into U2
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Posted By: Hayseed Dixie
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 15:21
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Hey Pete ..is never too late to see the light ya know  Agree with you about Deep Purple...one of those bands who's music will be played forever I think...plus their history is really interesting..one of those bands like The Byrds and Fleetwood Mac who's line up changes and different incarnations make them ideal material for a really good book. Anybody recomend a good book on the Purple? Rainbow I used to be a fan of in their early days...and still like some of the classic stuff...but I got bored with them and have never really gone back to listening to them. I still listen to Purple and early Whitesnake... Anyway..enough blabbing out of me for now... ------------- Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again. - (Henri Cartier-Bresson) |
Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 15:21
The Edge is highly regarded in so many guitar circles. An innovator - much imitated but there is only one *Edge*. 
Of the U2 songs played at the Grove (U2,October, War era) I'd say the solo on "A day without me" is the most memorable. With the Edge it's not all centred around the solo it's the sound he injects into the overall sound of U2 which really makes him so cherished and appreciated... ------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: Black Russian
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 15:25
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Yeah I agree with you about Rainbow. Rainbow isn't Rainbow without Ronnie James Dio. There is one or two songs with Graham Bonnet thats not bad... Whitesnake in the 90's a bit cheesey looking back on them now. But I got an old Live album "Live in the Heart" Its classic.. The Deep Purple Album I have is Live in London with David Coverdale singing on it. A big comparsion between the two albms I mentioned.. Went to see Whitesnake in te Point a few years back Excellent!! also the Purple the two previous years before that ------------- "Legal downloads is killing Piracy" http://www.flickr.com/groups/th |
Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 15:44
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There was a sketch in one of the
D'Unbelievables videos/shows where John Kenny sl*gs off Pat Shortt on account of his "Whiteshnake" albums .... I once had "Live in the Heart of the City". The title track "Ain't No Love .. in the heart of the City" (an old Bobby Blue Bland Blues tune) was great and the two guitarists Mickey Moody (great on slide guitar) and Bernie Marsden were super on that album. I felt that Whitesnake went downhill relative to my tastes when they went all glam and the video era brought them into the slippery slope (maybe I'm being unfair there....) ------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: Hayseed Dixie
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 15:52
No...I agree..that live album was their pinnacle...and they did get very cheesy and glam and drifted far away from their original blues based rock ..I have that on vinyl..not even sure if you can get it on CD. I don't think the most recent incarnation has anything to do with the original Whitesnake except for Coverdale. The original line-up if I remember rightly was practically Deep Purple without Blackmore...so basically a progression from the final Purple line-up. I didn't get to see the re-union..and honestly..wouldn't really want to..I think there are very few bands that can reform after many years and do any sort of justice to their original music..which is why as a lifelong Beatles fan I would have hated them to get back together..they certainly could not have added to their legend just tarnished it... Much rather see something new and innovative ... If I wanna relive the good ole days..I can just go to the Grove Re-union and hear the original and best.... ------------- Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again. - (Henri Cartier-Bresson) |
Posted By: Black Russian
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 19:11
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Well I went to Deep Purple the first time they played they ROCCCCKED aLTHOUGH THE SECOND TIME i WENT TO THEM lYNARD sKYNARD PLAYED WITH they blew Deep Purple off the stage. I was surprised at Skynard wasn't expecting much from them was only looking forward to their two songs I know Fareebird and Sweet Home Alabama I was in to Whitesnake in their CHEEZY era cause that was my ERA .. Even the revamped version f Fool for your loving in the 90s was lame compared to the orignal I can see that now !!.., But inregards to their concert Ah yeah well worth seeing. I heard they were better the next time they played here in the OlympiaAgain the Beatles na not my cup of tea at all Sorry... P ------------- "Legal downloads is killing Piracy" http://www.flickr.com/groups/th |
Posted By: Hayseed Dixie
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 19:41
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Ah no bother Pete...variety is the spice of life...if everybody liked the same music would be a boring world right Not sure where the thread was...but recently we were discussing Talking Heads - The Name of this Band is their debut live album...well I just picked up the remastered CD with 12 extra tracks...for 8.99..an absolute bargain..cos it still sounds fresh and exciting...was really chuffed....am sitting here listening to it right now...brilliant!! ------------- Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again. - (Henri Cartier-Bresson) |
Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 19:55
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Great stuff Robbie - I *had* that on vinyl way back
when and I senselessly traded it for some other inferior piece of vinyl at the time (the details of which escape me now). That's a great price for a very fine disc (plus all those bonus tracks) Enjoy, Enjoy !! --Ian ------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 20:02
Guitars on Molly Hatchet's "Fall Of The Peacemakers" ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 20:04
Love Neil Young. Seen him many times. "Like A Hurricane"  ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 20:16
Molly Hatchet  !! What a blast
from the past. I don't think I ever bought any albums from them but I do remember being recommended them by someone who told me that they were the natural progression for anyone who liked Lynyrd Skynyrd or Allman Bros,etc. I must check out that one Pat ! The exciting thing is getting recommendations on stuff you've not heard before. ------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: Hayseed Dixie
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 20:22
That one would probably be my second favourite after Cortez...I saw him at the point a few years ago with Crazy Horse and I was sure the roof was gonna lift off during Hurricane.. Dunno if you were at that gig Pat, but it was amazing...2nd best gig I've ever been to I think.... ------------- Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again. - (Henri Cartier-Bresson) |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 20:29
HD, I sure was. Right up the front. I remember a few young lads were beside me and Neil was belting out "Farmer John" and the lads asked me the name of the track. So I told them and strongly recommended the album Ragged Glory. Love that album. Love "Cortez" as well. Not easy to pick a favourite track as his music is so diverse. Country, Rockabilly, Metal, Grunge, Ballads. He's done it all. Mr Young  ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 20:31
You MUST get "Fall Of The Peacemakers". A true classic. Guitars and great lyrica as well. The great John Lennon is alluded to. But dig the riffs, a la "Freebird" It's on their album "No Guts, No Glory". ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 20:34
Machine Head from 1972 is a classic album. The original Deep Purple line up was some band. Agreed re Whitesnake. Few good songs but rubbish really in comparison to Purple. ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Hayseed Dixie
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 20:37
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Yeah..my thoughts exactly...and he just keeps pissing off the record companies...putting out what he likes..not what they think will sell. I have quite a lot of his albums on Vinyl..have that grunge one..which I have to admit..wouldn't be my favourite..and the electronic one...and Landing on Water which I think most fans would have down as possibly his worst album. But he experiments...and if it doesn't work..it doesn;t work...is what makes him so great I think. I love that track from the Blues album...where he sings about not doing any Pepsi ads...the video for it was hilarious... ah sure..we could sit here all night and wax lyrical about Mr Young..heheh!! and that's not even to mention CSN&Y or Buffalo Springfield...what a career...!! ------------- Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again. - (Henri Cartier-Bresson) |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 20:48
HD, CSN without the Y were never the same. I read Neil Young's autobiography. Great read. Don't normally read bio's but this was really good. He had a hard life with many ups and downs personally. ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: tmarie
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 21:22
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Don't know if it's my favourite Neil Young track but I love singin along to Out on the Weekend. "Heard Mr Young" through the Grove and became a devotee... Re guitar riffs (original topic!) I think the middle bit of "Time" is fantastic, in fact Floyd have a rake of good riffs and they're not usually the first band that come to mind... ------------- Cheers Marie |
Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 21:30
I love that TMarie as well as the solo in "Another Brick in the Wall" .. fantastic arpeggio and so full of surprise. Mr Gilmore was/is a legend. ------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: tmarie
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 21:34
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You're not wrong there :) They're one band I'd love love love to see live (all of them together) Their Live8 gig was a real lump in throat high...
------------- Cheers Marie |
Posted By: Hayseed Dixie
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 21:40
What was it called Pat? I like to read interesting Bio's...am actually reading a Bio of the two guys who founded Google right now and am enthralled... am pretty sure I'd enjoy a well written Neil Young Bio ------------- Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again. - (Henri Cartier-Bresson) |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 21:57
HD, F**ked if I can remember. A friend gave it to me. I'll ask him and let you know. ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 21:58
"High Hopes" off "Division Bell" has a great ending. ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Hayseed Dixie
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 21:59
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Ta Pat... A bit quiet around here tonight.. ------------- Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again. - (Henri Cartier-Bresson) |
Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 22:02
Pat, HD: Would it be this one ? http://www.amazon.com/Shakey-Neil-Youngs-Biography-Vintage/dp/0679750967/sr=1-1/qid=1160168414/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-9967389-4893562?ie=UTF8&s=books - Shakey 
Amazon to the rescue ------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 22:05
Sure, but Friday night, a lot of the folks are out and about. Me I have my red wine and Neil Young in the background. My local, here in Rivervalley, are charging over €4 a pint now. Just don't go to pubs now. Bottle wine cheaper and you can sit at home and enjoy. Remember for an old pound you could get 4 pints and entry to the Grove. ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Hayseed Dixie
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 22:11
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Doing much the same here Pat..cept my tipple tonight is Dark Rum and Cola...was listening to Talking Heads..The Name of This Band is...but it's finished and I'm too lazy to get up and change it... Same with the pubs here.... too expensive...and not particularly inviting... ------------- Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again. - (Henri Cartier-Bresson) |
Posted By: finno
Date Posted: 06-October-2006 at 23:20
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Neil young - guitar on "Like a Hurricane" makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. P.S. cant beat a nice bottle of red wine. ------------- A man must have a code |
Posted By: Black Russian
Date Posted: 07-October-2006 at 14:39
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Favourite Neil Young ong has to be "The Needle and the Damage done" I love the guitar on Pink Floyds Comfortly Numb and also Run like hell. I got the Talking heads 2Stop Making Sense" album a year or 2 ago released with the full concert its excellant... Listening to "Mistreated" on Deep Purples Live in London album... Great song.... "I've been MISTREATEDDD.... sINCE MY BABY LEFT ME i've been losing losing my mind"....  .Apologies fr the singing P ------------- "Legal downloads is killing Piracy" http://www.flickr.com/groups/th |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 07-October-2006 at 15:19
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OK, I know this isnt "guitar" related but the whole Rainbow/Deep Purple/Whitesnake reminded me of something. Went with an ex girlfriend to a gig in Dalymount Park in the mid 80s. Diamond Head, Motorhead, Twisted Sister and Black Sabbath with Ian Gillan(!!) singing with them. Didnt really care to see Motorhead or Twisted Sister although I was keen to see Diamond Head and interested/curious seeing Sabbath with Gillan fronting. Knew it was going to be a bad day when it was announced that Diamond Head wouldnt be showing as their lead singer had a throat infection - Sabbath were late coming on as I recall and did a forgettable set - to cap it all, I just laughed when they played "Smoke on the Water" in the encore - ah c'mon I thought, is this "Purple Sabbath"?? ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Black Russian
Date Posted: 07-October-2006 at 16:50
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Learnt something new. Never knew Gillian fronted with Sabbath. I know
Dio got back in the 90's and Ozzy was support act for Sabbath and they
asked Ozzy to join them on the encore. Dio wasn't happy and left
Sabbath again. Rob Halford took over singing on tour with them for
while then... Well I think thats what happened... Please do not quote
me
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Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 07-October-2006 at 23:47
I once owned an album from the Gillan group (1981) "Double Trouble". The guitarist in that Lineup was Janik Gers who apparently later went to Iron Maiden. I'm not sure if he was Belgian or Dutch. I think one single "Nightmare" got into the UK charts and was even on Top of the Pops. A chap called David Gradwell (Raheny) who was in our class was crazy about Gillan - his whole career from Purple thru to his solo stuff. I haven't seen Dave in over 21 yrs. I couldn't imagine but he would have been at that same gig you were at Mel. -- ------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 08-October-2006 at 12:52
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Nice thread guys, missed a couple days and all hell breaks loose. Hayseed,glad ya found " The name of this band " really love it. Iano, yeah, Robbo's solo on live version of " Still in Love with You " one of the best. Neil Young..........Powderfinger, Cortez, Like A Hurricane all magic. Love some of the accoustic stuff too, Sugar Mountain, After the Gold Rush etc. Can take or leave, Purple, Sabbath, Whitesnake in their various guises and was at that Purple/Skynyrd thing and agree with Pete, Skynyrd blew them away. But for me, Jimmy Page is the King ! Was never able to play the guitar so respect to those of you that can. |
Posted By: Black Russian
Date Posted: 08-October-2006 at 17:42
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Rolo Two favourites guitarist (No not The Edge) but Page and Blackmore. Just been to the Jonesboro market and got myself 3 albums. They have a great cd stall up there. Not that much cheaper than the shops but chances you pick stuff up that you can't find many places
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Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 08-October-2006 at 18:04
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Pete,
Jonesboro market ! Long time since I past through there. I'm guessing with the new road which bypasses Drogheda, etc that it must be much more accessible from the M50 in Dublin. How long of a journey is it typically to there from say the airport exit off the M50 ? I didn't realise Coverdale and Page collaborated. I probably was in Rock n'Roll hibernation for a few years there in the mid nineties when that happened I think Richie Blackmore's most recent projects are acoustic (eg lutes,etc) and slightly new age with lots of medieval references, etc - not my cuppa tea at any rate. Loved his early Purple work. Critics would argue the solos might have been a bit self indulgent but that was the hallmark of Purple at the time. The duelling between Richie and Jon Lord on his distinctive overdriven Hammond organ were legendary !!!
-Ian ------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 08-October-2006 at 18:28
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Got the Coverdale/Page album (that the one with the signpost on the front?). Sad to say, it didnt stick in the memory...not sure why..must dust it off and play it again! ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 08-October-2006 at 18:35
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Fogerty's opening guitar riff's on Up Around The Bend. The duelling guitar sounds of Wishbone Ash. Neil Young's acoustic stuff is excellent and simple. The man has a voice though. A great song, if you can get it is, "Brothers" by Corey Stevens. ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Black Russian
Date Posted: 08-October-2006 at 18:52
 http://www.blackmoresnight.com/index2.htmI haven't heard any of Blackmore recent stuff. Thats a link to his site there. As for self indulgent apparentlt Blackmore and Gillian constantly argued about putting Child in Time in the live set. Gillian didn't want it in cause it killed his vocal cords every night. Blackmore use to play it whether it was in the playset or not on a few occassions pissGillian off.. Mel the Coverdale and Page album listening to it here it isn't all that bad now. Dust it off. Takes about 45 mins to Jonesboro now. All the ilegal stuff is gone like the boot legs DVD and CDS not much else in it now. Good T-Shirts and the CD stall thats about it P ------------- "Legal downloads is killing Piracy" http://www.flickr.com/groups/th |
Posted By: Esthalon
Date Posted: 09-October-2006 at 12:06
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Missed a week and so much to read.... For me my favourite Solo Jimi Hendrix - Little Wing ------------- Smoke me a kipper I'll be back for Breakfast! |
Posted By: russell
Date Posted: 09-October-2006 at 23:08
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Well done Ian for setting up this thread, missed it over the past few days ...until I saw it just now . some great reading here. listen I'm gonna throw a spanner into the works and list some of my favourite guitarists. Hope I don't give yiz a shock , hope you heard of them all . 1. Pat Metheny ...been to see him 3 times and no-one plays Jazz guitar like him, He's a great composer and a genius on the fretboard. 2.Steve Hackett ( genises ) very invovative, Him and Peter Gabriel were the heart of the band , after they left... the band went all soppy ! 3. Jimmy Page. not just about guitar solos , but fantastic 12 string work , acoustic fingerstyle ,.........very creative guitarist ! 4 Jullian Bream. ..fantastic classical guitarist, makes each note really resonate. 5. Dave Gilmour...the Wall , dark side of the moon . need I say more ? . Heard some tracks of his new album and it's so obvious he's lost none of his talent .......not one bit ! 6 Gordon Giltrap ...the Hair and moustache let him down. but a fantastic acoustic guitarist ! ...heartsong was a great track 7 Jim Hall ..another jazz head. Have an album (undercurents) off him playing duets with Bill Evans. just Piano and Guitar ,one of my favourite albums 8 Segovia ...up until old age he was still playing beautifully ! Saw a programme with him playing in a hall.. Old man , tubby hands, about to fall into the coffin, that was after he gave another fantastic performance ...a real legend ...ok enough is enough ! Seriously though, the above axe men have really inspired me over the years. All have given the guitar their own signature and have blown people away all over the world Russ
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Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 12-October-2006 at 20:21
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"Argus" by Wishbone Ash spinning on the turntable at moment. Great album and new stylus making a huge difference to sound quality. ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: finno
Date Posted: 12-October-2006 at 20:26
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Bought argus on cd a couple of weeks age still a great album. Saw thenm once in the Stadium 1980 -2 period brilliant still stands out in my memory
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Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 12-October-2006 at 20:33
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Russell,
I meant to reply to this great post there a few days ago. That's a great broad selection of fine guitarists you've listed there. I've got 2 Jim Hall albums for example. How about the legend picker .. Chet Atkins ? Re Pat Metheny - I still have to get sold on the whole progressive Jazz/ Jazz rock genre. I guess if I ever saw him play live I'd be probably sold immediately because he is known to be one of the finest technicians of the instrument. I must check out Steve Hackett's stuff. Since joining this forum I've been awakened to the existence of the "real" Genesis. I'm going to look at the Genesis back catalog in the Hackett/Gabriel era and I'm sure I'll see what all the fuss was about! -Ian
------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: RoundaboutToo!
Date Posted: 13-October-2006 at 00:33
Pat - thanks for reminding me! I haven't heard Wishbone for decades! - I had an album with 'The King Will Come' - Was that from Argus? I've never forgotten the guitar riff on it. Must search them out. CP. |
Posted By: Blondie
Date Posted: 13-October-2006 at 10:19
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Russ have just read your post above and wholeheartedly agree with you on Pat Metheny. Used to go and see him play when I lived in London and every concert was always first class. Is he well known over here in Ireland do you know ???????? Wonder if he ever plays over here would love to go and see him again. Anyway thanks for mentioning him have'nt listened to him in ages but will tonight ------------- Blondie I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it ! |
Posted By: Hayseed Dixie
Date Posted: 13-October-2006 at 13:55
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If we're talking catchy guitar riffs..then I think Jimmy Page, Keith Richards and Angus Young always do it for me....especially the first two. .. I'd still have Dave Gilmore as possibly the finest lead guitarist in terms of solo's...to my ears anyway..just something magical about most of the Floyd's solo's. Plus I really love Eric Claptons work with Cream...most especially Disraeli Gears...just a wonderful..if very short..album. ------------- Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again. - (Henri Cartier-Bresson) |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 13-October-2006 at 19:43
Argus is correct. I actually had a Wishbone Ash night last night. Listened to their first album called Wishbone Ash, then Wishbone 4 with Everybody Needs A Friend (classic) and then gave "Live Dates" a blem. Have "New England" as well but no time to play that one. Super band ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: russell
Date Posted: 14-October-2006 at 00:24
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Ah Lads ....I think we're all agreeed that Gilmore and Page . To my shame am Still anewbie when it comes to Argus and wishbone ash recommendations are welcome Russ ------------- Russ |
Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 14-October-2006 at 00:24
| Surprised no one mentioned Rory. Love his style. |
Posted By: russell
Date Posted: 14-October-2006 at 00:28
Well Blondie I would never have ya down for a Metheny fan, And you've been to all his gigs ......Wow thats fantastic , tell you the truth I do get a bit of stick for being a fan (workmates ) .Do you have a favourite album ? did you ever see him play his piccaso guitar ...3 fretboards and 42 strings ....try tunning that in after a few too many shorts
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Posted By: russell
Date Posted: 14-October-2006 at 00:29
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Rolo Iwas thinking that ....theres got to be a few fans out there ------------- Russ |
Posted By: russell
Date Posted: 14-October-2006 at 00:39
Ian I just love Jim Hall...just something about the way he plays .So melancholic. I don't know enough about Chet atkins .....recommendations again Ian ...if your going to invest in a Steve Hackett album . Try His solo album . 'please don't touch' there's some great vocals from Richie hevans and Randy /crawford Russ ------------- Russ |
Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 14-October-2006 at 11:09
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Russell,
Chet Atkins is a zillion miles away from the Grove type music but he is a real "guitarists guitarist" if you know what I mean. What's takes an extra leap of faith is that his genre is country style fingerpicking and a very distinctive style of solo accompaniement where he gets a sort of "one man band" percussive effect going with the bass/middle notes picking. It's kind of twee stuff but as Ali G might say *RESPECT*  ------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: russell
Date Posted: 14-October-2006 at 16:28
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Ian I've got I tunes and broadband ....gonna look into this sometime this weekend ! off now to the shops before they close Russ ------------- Russ |
Posted By: Black Russian
Date Posted: 14-October-2006 at 20:51
Whats the problem didn't you just mention him just there.... Jeeez!! some people.. We all knew you mention him.. Hey what about the Edge. Do any you people out there rate him as a top guitarist ?? P ------------- "Legal downloads is killing Piracy" http://www.flickr.com/groups/th |
Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 14-October-2006 at 22:11
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I definitely should have mentioned Rory.
He inspired a generation .. to use a slightly overused but entirely appropriate cliche! Everything from his slide playing, fantastic fingerwork, acoustic stuff. - Ian ------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: russell
Date Posted: 14-October-2006 at 23:24
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Pete Have to say the Edge actually became a very good guitarist ! When he started off I reckon he still had a bit to learn, but he realy has developed his own style over the past ten years
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Posted By: Blondie
Date Posted: 16-October-2006 at 09:50
Yeh know what you mean have to be honest was an ex of mine who was made about him so got tickets for a concert as birthday pressie and then was completely bowled over . Thought he was fantastic and so different to anything else I really would be into. Have two or three albums at home cant remember name of favourite one will check it out and let you know. ------------- Blondie I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it ! |
Posted By: russell
Date Posted: 16-October-2006 at 17:44
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One of my Favourites has to be the 'secret Story' He played most of the instruments on it himself but brought in the london philharmonic ... let me know what albums you have ... ------------- Russ |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 24-October-2006 at 22:51
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Was on a course last 2 days. Part of the course we had to do a bit on a personal thing, for 2 mins. I did the Grove documentary experience. Another guy Frank did his piece on Marquee Moon, the album by Television. It was a brill piece and tonight I got out the album and had a blem..been a while but.........excellent Have the Taste album 1969 red/black cover with Rory's face, on at moment. ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 30-October-2006 at 19:17
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Anybody like Warren Zevon ? ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: myploscarfe
Date Posted: 31-October-2006 at 00:29
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Yep Pat Remember hearing Werewolves for the first time and not catching the name of the artist. I'd say that it was another six months before I found out who it was. Google was not around in those days! Always thought Tenderness On The Block was written by Freddy White until I got Excitable Boy, even though Freddy did a good version of it in fairness. Have been a Zevon fan on and off ever since. He was a seriously wild party animal caught up with him in the end but he went with dignity (My Ride Is Here)! Saw him live in the Olympia late eighties I think. I had forgotton all about that gig until one of my mates mentioned it to me (it was one of those nights) but I have since remembered enough of it to know that it was a great night. Brilliant performer. Talking about live performances I see that they finally got around to re-releasing Stand In The Fire, not before time, great rocking album. ------------- Careful With That Patchoulie Oil Eugene |
Posted By: myploscarfe
Date Posted: 31-October-2006 at 08:14
Have any of you heard "Beyond The Missouri Sky" Metheny recorded this with jazz bassist Charlie Haden. Excellent album very laid back and atmospheric. My favorite track from it is The Main Theme to Cinema Paradiso great movie great tune. The album also got the jazz album of the year award for 1997. Well worth a spin. ------------- Careful With That Patchoulie Oil Eugene |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 02-November-2006 at 19:02
Was at that gig. If it's the same gig it started late and we all got freebies into Midnight at Olympia when none other than The Blues Band were playing. The Blues Band featuring Paul Jones ex Manfred Mann vocals and McGuinness and Flint. Great night, 2 great gigs. ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: finno
Date Posted: 02-November-2006 at 20:20
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Saw the BluesBand great live act. Saw them with "Rockin Doopsie and the Cajun twisters - played Cajun and zydico music
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Posted By: russell
Date Posted: 04-November-2006 at 00:47
Ditto Myplo........ couldn't agree more . Cinema paradiso is abrill little track on that . the whole album is amazing There was a new album , just him in a room with a guitar,no overdubs .the whole thing recorded in a few hours .....it's called 'one quiet night' Russ ------------- Russ |
Posted By: myploscarfe
Date Posted: 04-November-2006 at 03:29
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Russ I will have to check that album out. Ain't heard it yet....but I soon will! Have you checked out any off Hayden's albums. Saw him perform with the Liberation orchestra at the Jazz Fest last year, have the album, some mad stuff there, but only if you like jazz! ------------- Careful With That Patchoulie Oil Eugene |
Posted By: eejit91
Date Posted: 04-November-2006 at 19:02
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Just driving in the car and Black Betty came on - have to say the guitar in that is just great! love it! ------------- "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better." |
Posted By: finno
Date Posted: 05-November-2006 at 17:48
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Guitar talk with a difference. HELP My daughter is looking for a bass guitar, so if anyone would like to donate same, great. But seriously I am looking for some advice she is very keen on getting a bass (plus an amp). As a beginner does anyone have any suggestions? Preferably cheap or at least resonable. ------------- A man must have a code |
Posted By: Hayseed Dixie
Date Posted: 06-November-2006 at 01:14
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Hey Finno...Argos do a beginners Bass guitar..which also includes an amp as well...here's a link to the UK site...it's not on the Irish site..but it is in the catalogue... http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/0660495/Trail/C%24cip%3D42492.Sound%2Band%2Bvision%3EC%24cip%3D42510.Musical%2Binstruments%2Band%2Bkaraoke%3EC%24cip%3D42511.Guitars.htm - Click here ------------- Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again. - (Henri Cartier-Bresson) |
Posted By: ShayG
Date Posted: 06-November-2006 at 02:33
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http://www.wesleyguitars.co.uk/storefrontprofiles/deluxeSFshop.aspx?sid=1&sfid=44184&c=519508 - http://www.wesleyguitars.co.uk/storefrontprofiles/deluxeSFsh op.aspx?sid=1&sfid=44184&c=519508 as a bass player i bought their semi acoustic bass last feb ..great buy if you want a 2nd hand pm me ------------- never forget your roots..northside forever |
Posted By: finno
Date Posted: 06-November-2006 at 09:18
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Thanks Hayseed and Shayg All advice gratefully received. ------------- A man must have a code |
Posted By: RoundaboutToo!
Date Posted: 06-November-2006 at 11:39
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great site Shay! some beautiful guitars there! Finno - I got a guitar & amp from www.audiocity.ie a while back and their service is excellent! their prices include next day courier delivery. CP |
Posted By: Esthalon
Date Posted: 06-November-2006 at 12:31
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Finno, I only know the basics about playing guitar myself but as we have 9 guitars in the house I'll chip in my tuppence worth. My main bit of advice would be DO NOT buy a guitar without someone who knows how playing it first. No point buying a cheap bass if it's going to be so hard to play it'll put her off (the same goes for expensive ones too)....Even in Argos and I know for sure in Smyths (Yep the Toystore) they'll let you take the guitar out for a play.... no two guitars are alike and the neck can warp etc in storage so make sure you play the one you're actually buying. Best of Luck. June ------------- Smoke me a kipper I'll be back for Breakfast! |
Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 12-December-2006 at 16:49
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Couple of questions for astute ex-Grovers
1. Can someone suggest a contemporary playlist for songs which youngsters (15+) would be keen on learning to play on guitar. ..i.e if I were to tell them "Neil Young" I'm pretty sure they'd say "Neil who"? 
I'm guessing newbie artists like Jack Jones, KT Tunstall, Greenday, Magic Numbers, Radiohead, etc might pop up... 2. At the advanced end of things.. is there a song that any of you have *always* wanted to play on guitar but chords,etc have eluded you ? chords or solo,etc ? I'm trying to hone my repertoire should I decide to try to make a few shillings out of teaching guitar again. --Ian ------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: finno
Date Posted: 12-December-2006 at 19:54
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Just like to take this opportunity to thank all those who offered advice in relation to trhe purchase os a base guitar for my daughter. I eventually got one from Waltons in Dublin. So thanks again.
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Posted By: Pogue Mahoney
Date Posted: 12-December-2006 at 20:08
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Back in the early days Fleetwood Mac was a straight electric blues band in
the same vein as John Mayall. A tune of theirs (not a bluesy) regularly played at the Grove was a slow guitar number called "Albatross". It was a huge hit , funny you never hear it around anymore...in the USA at least. |
Posted By: finno
Date Posted: 12-December-2006 at 20:15
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I remember it. I think it has being used in an ad here recently. ------------- A man must have a code |
Posted By: Pogue Mahoney
Date Posted: 12-December-2006 at 20:18
Ian. This is not a well known song but a great starter piece for the beginner. I showed it to my 12 year old daughter and she fell in love with it. Her very first song to play on guitar. Here are 3 links Terra Naomi--singing the original http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARHyRI9_NB4 A very talented young girl giving it a try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK8PxZgMrGY How to Play "Say it's Possible by Terra" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iL9fxgcGVs |
Posted By: Esthalon
Date Posted: 12-December-2006 at 21:13
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Thnking of my 13 year old Nephew and what he's learning....(or wants to learn) Chilli Peppers, Razorlight, Killers, Metallica, Audioslave (from that got him into SoundGarden :o) Kings of Leon, SnowPatrol. Hope that goves you some ideas. ------------- Smoke me a kipper I'll be back for Breakfast! |
Posted By: IanL
Date Posted: 12-December-2006 at 21:48
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Kings of Leon - I really like
Razorlight are interesting - quite raw .. slightly naive lyrics but very listenable. Snow Patrol (even though they have an Irish connection) grrr  I find there stuff real plodding
same-old same-old. You can tell I'm not a fan
Oops I better not let my musical prejudices interfere with my ability to teach guitar if I ever go down that route
------------- Ian - Grover '81-'84 Exiled to Mayo since 2005 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 12-December-2006 at 22:19
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[QUOTE=IanL]Kings of Leon - I really like
Razorlight are interesting - quite raw .. slightly naive lyrics but very listenable. Snow Patrol (even though they have an Irish connection) grrr I find there stuff real plodding
same-old same-old. You can tell I'm not a fan
[QUOTE=Esthalon] Love that song Run by Snow Patrol
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: irish_mammy
Date Posted: 13-December-2006 at 04:13
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Ian, My 13 yr old stepson loves playing Greenday songs. He reckons they're the easiest and the coolest. He's even tried some AC/DC too!!! I bought him his guitar last christmas and he loves it. ------------- Lesley 25th June - 25th July. Get organising my nights out. Child can stay in the car. Grove 1980-1984 |
Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 13-December-2006 at 23:00
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Ian...you'd be surprised...my nephew (13) is learning guitarand for his school play the teacher said they could pick a song,learn it and play/sing it at their play. The teacher didn't influence them and the song they picked was...After the Gold rush. Unanimously picked by the class and they also played Let it be. I guess some music is just timeless. ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |