Making of the documentary
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Topic: Making of the documentary
Posted By: Biker Pat
Subject: Making of the documentary
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 18:41
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Biker Pat and Joe Mc Elwaine (Director). First shoot Oct 05.  ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
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Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 18:43
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The Animo team. Joe, Mick, Richard and Sinead.  ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 18:44
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The team again  By the way thats my 'loon' jacket from 1972 on my knee. Didn't make it into the documentary.  ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 18:44
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 18:45
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 18:47
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The second shoot Dec 05. Joe and John from Animo.  ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 18:48
Discussing ideas. This was 8am in the morning   ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 18:50
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Getting the sound and camera position right. I went in and out of that shed many times.  ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 18:51
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 18:53
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 18:54
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 18:55
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At the Grove reunion Halloween Oct 05.  ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 18:56
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 18:56
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 18:57
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Of course not all these shots made it into the documentary.  ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 18:58
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 18:59
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 18:59
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 19:09
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Just to say it was a pleasure to work with the Animo team. As nice a bunch of folks you could wish to work with. Made me very much at ease and were lighthearted throughout. Thanks guys  ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: eejit91
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 20:16
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Fantastic Pat! Your the man. ------------- "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better." |
Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 21:02
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Thanks for sharing the pics Pat.....it's great to see what goes on behind the camera.
------------- You are what you wanna be....age doesn't matter |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 10-September-2008 at 22:24
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Thanks for sharing those Pat! Great photos! ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: RoundaboutToo!
Date Posted: 12-September-2008 at 00:53
Pat, Hope you got the reg number of the car as it hit Joe  Love the photos, shows how much work is involved in what seems like a few straightforward clips in the documentary. Would you believe I've only just watched the documentary tonight for the first time since it was screened (saw it in the Shieling too) Thanks again to Sunstorm |
Biker Pat wrote:Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 12-September-2008 at 01:00
Roundy. you'll notice mine is screened out. An old biker trick to avoid those damned speed cameras ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: RoundaboutToo!
Date Posted: 12-September-2008 at 01:18
| just remembering my Da's honda 50 had a curved number plate on the front mudguard! Dont see front plates now! |
Posted By: Aries
Date Posted: 12-September-2008 at 08:33
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Roundy They are now illigal due to the serious injury they caused people who were hit by bikes. ------------- THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE BUT IT'LL PISS YOU OFF FIRST |
Posted By: Evangeline
Date Posted: 12-September-2008 at 21:06
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Lovely bike Pat! Jen ------------- "Gentlemen! You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!" |
Posted By: RoundaboutToo!
Date Posted: 12-September-2008 at 23:01
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Gary - his next bike had adhesive numbers on the front all right. |
Posted By: Blondie
Date Posted: 14-September-2008 at 10:34
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Great pics Pat agree with Ciaran just goes to show how much work goes into a single shot. Bet it was great fun to make. ------------- Blondie I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it ! |
Posted By: SMASHING
Date Posted: 14-September-2008 at 17:59
| GREAT PIC. HAVE TO SAY I WOULDVE LOVED TO SEE MORE EARLY NINETIES STUFF IN THE DOCUMENTARY AS I FELT IT DEALT WITH MORE OF THE EARLY GROVERS. THAT ASIDE I THINK THERE IS HUGE SCOPE FOR MORE DOCUMENTARIES TO BE MADE AND IF NOT THEN MAYBE RTE COULD ISSUE A DVD RELEASE OF IT, IM SURE IT WOULD BE A GOOD SELLER |
Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 14-September-2008 at 18:09
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No need to shout there SMASHING. You'll wake the baby. |
Posted By: Sharon
Date Posted: 14-September-2008 at 20:21
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Smashing in forums/chatrooms if you use ur caps on it means u r shouting and can sometimes be seen as being rude I KNOW YOUR NOT SO LESS caps more chat Shar ------------- All I wanted was chips!! |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 14-September-2008 at 22:06
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Thats gas actually Smashing as I felt that the late 70s until late 80s didnt get any coverage at all. I asked Joe about this at the "webcast" night earlier in the summer in Andys place and he told me that they basically hadnt got any interviewees from that era...oh well. ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: irish_mammy
Date Posted: 14-September-2008 at 23:00
Excellent pics Pat. Looks like great fun - bet it was hard work tho'. So how many times did you go in and out of your shed?????? ------------- Lesley 25th June - 25th July. Get organising my nights out. Child can stay in the car. Grove 1980-1984 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 15-September-2008 at 00:03
Can't remember . You know the morning of the second shoot 22 December 2005 the lads arrived at 7.30 and we had to hang around till after 8am till it bright. It was the day before I went to Thailand and the morning after a Christmas night out. I was knackered We tried to shoot scenes on my road but too much wind was being picked up on the mike. Then I drove my motorbike all around my estate after Joe's car with him shooting, it was gas. people didn't know what was going on. We eventually ended up in my back garden to get the sound quality right. There's loads of film and chat that never made the documentary. I have to say it gave me enormous satisfaction and pride to be a part of this documentary. ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: irish_mammy
Date Posted: 15-September-2008 at 15:17
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Sounds fantastic Pat. I bet you have great memories of it and not just on the cutting floor. Did you sleep on the plane to Thailand the next day??. ------------- Lesley 25th June - 25th July. Get organising my nights out. Child can stay in the car. Grove 1980-1984 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 15-September-2008 at 15:37
No problem after a few G&T's ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Caroloz
Date Posted: 15-September-2008 at 16:30
| Thats brilliant Pat...you should be very proud. |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 15-September-2008 at 23:00
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Carol Privileged is the word that comes to mind most. Pat ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Uncle Arthur
Date Posted: 16-September-2008 at 22:55
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A fascinating insight Pat. Thanks for representing us all so well in the documentary. ------------- UA "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity but an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty" |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 02-April-2009 at 18:05
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Was googling the name McMorrow and I found this on the Grove documentary on the Irish TV and Film Archives. Film Details
------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 02-April-2009 at 21:21
See you are famous Pat 
------------- You are what you wanna be....age doesn't matter |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 02-April-2009 at 21:34
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Naw BB...  Just goes to show how many people were involved in the doc and I can only imagine how much time was spent in putting 40 minutes of classic TV together. ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 02-April-2009 at 22:20
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I vaguely remember Joe (McElwaine) mentioning something, I think, at the first Grove webcast, about the stuff that they had filmed that didnt get into the final version of the documentary - would love to see the "Directors cut" of the show!!
------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 02-April-2009 at 23:13
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Wouldn't we all As I said before he mentioned it but I guess he's too busy to get that together. Later maybe  ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: muller
Date Posted: 22-April-2009 at 11:44
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I can't retrieve the 32A thread so I decided to post this update here. I hope it doesn't upset anyone (Mr. moderator). I know how gentle and sensitive you all are about our precious forum. Like may of you, I missed the screening of 32A and have been waiting patiently for the DVD. I thought it was due for relase this month. I have tried on-line and popped into various record shops but to no avail. In desperation I sent an e-mail to Janey Pictures and received a lovely reply from Tommy. Dear Brian
Thanks for your interest in the DVD of 32A. We'd hoped for April, but the distributors have indicated June or July.
We'll definitely let you know, we very keen to see it out there.
Thanks for your interest
Best wishes
Tommy
Tommy ------------- Life is for living |
Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 22-April-2009 at 12:36
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No problem at all Briano, but just in case you were interested http://thegrovesocialclub.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=578&PN=5 - http://thegrovesocialclub.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=578& amp;PN=5 Looking forward to the DVD meself too. |
Posted By: irish_mammy
Date Posted: 22-April-2009 at 14:42
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Can't wait for that to come out in DVD. That'll be one I watch over and over. (And don't worry about Mr. Moderator.  Now we know what he looks like with his picture splashed everywhere we can watch for him )
------------- Lesley 25th June - 25th July. Get organising my nights out. Child can stay in the car. Grove 1980-1984 |
Posted By: ShortHairHippie
Date Posted: 23-April-2009 at 01:28
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thanks Muller,I was wondering when that was coming out,so thanks for that,I'll be buying that for sure ------------- upon us all,a little rain must fall |
Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 23-April-2009 at 09:15
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Thanks for that information Muller, I also missed it and am looking forward to watching it.
------------- You are what you wanna be....age doesn't matter |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 23-April-2009 at 14:39
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I thought somebody said that RTE were doing the 32A movie and the Grove documentary together as part of a Grove evening? ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: ShortHairHippie
Date Posted: 23-April-2009 at 15:02
they said at a future date Pat,didnt say when exactly, so its anyones guess at the moment.... ------------- upon us all,a little rain must fall |
Posted By: finno
Date Posted: 16-May-2009 at 11:32
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One of the lucky ones to have seen it. Every so often I have been checking to see if its available. Showed the trailer to the girls and they want to see it also.
------------- A man must have a code |
Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 17-May-2009 at 17:09
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Can't wait for this either,having missed the screening. On another note,I feel it only right to mention how Tonto's brother,David,supplied a lot of the stills and photo's for the doc,except he never received any credit for it. Unfortunately,someone else did. I know this to be true not from Tonto but from another source. Suppose it doesn't really matter now-the result is greater than the means,I suppose,and I did mention this during the podcast,but I think he felt he might have received some credit. The fact he didn't put his hand up or rant about it would be another reason,but hey-at least they made it in the finished product and that is what matters. Wasn't there loads of 'cutting room florr' stuff which was supposed to get some sort of airing? ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |
Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 17-May-2009 at 22:36
Robbie and me were interviewed for the documentary but we never made the final cut.....probable because we were too pissed when the interview took place during the reunion night when it was been filmed......but I would love to see ALL the film footage that was recorded just to see what sh*te we came out with........and have a good ol laugh 
------------- You are what you wanna be....age doesn't matter |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 17-May-2009 at 23:12
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There was a mention of the cutting room floor stuff at one point - was it the first webcast? Would love to see that stuff.
------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 19-May-2009 at 10:32
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Doubt we'll ever see the uncut stuff. I know Joe McElwaine mentioned it before but as time passes and people move on to other projects the makers of the documentary probably don't have time to put a "director's cut" together. ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 19-May-2009 at 10:33
Floyd, That's a pity. Those stills and photos were an invaluable part of the whole documentary. ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 21-May-2009 at 22:15
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But BB-there is a shot of Rob strumming an air guitar just at the end,isn't there? (blink and you'll miss it) so you still have your 15 secounds (well,2.5...) ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |
Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 22-May-2009 at 23:49
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Well spotted Martin, but I think it's only about 12 seconds I also got my hand and my ass into the documentary during a slow set as the camera zoomed by........what a story to tell my grandkids !!! ------------- You are what you wanna be....age doesn't matter |
Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 25-May-2009 at 23:54
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Your ass??? Quick...where's me DVD of the doc... ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 26-May-2009 at 00:12
Which bit of the documentary is it in Yvonne? ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 26-May-2009 at 21:42
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Think it's om You tube...and a couple of other 'sites'!!! ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 27-May-2009 at 00:13
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------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |