Prog Rock at the Grove
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Topic: Prog Rock at the Grove
Posted By: Floyd
Subject: Prog Rock at the Grove
Date Posted: 29-August-2009 at 12:40
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Was listening to Genesis this morning and then wondered
what Genesis songs were played down there? Vaguely remember In Too Deep (hardly prog,more 80's pop) and think I remeber Follow You,Follow Me, but can't think of anything else. Then wondered how much real progressive rock Cecil played. Jethro Tull's Living n the Past and Hawkwind's Silver Machine immediately come to mind. I do remember Pink Floyd's Money (not a real prog track,and if I'm honest,it's actually most Pink Floyd fans least favourite song) and W.Y.W.H.,and of course Focus' Hocus Pocus. What other Prog Rock was played? ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |
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Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 29-August-2009 at 14:44
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Never heard Genesis in my time there '72-'75. Would Argent, Atomic Rooster, Curved Air, Yes, Edgar Winter Group fall into prog rock category? If so all the above had tracks played in the Grove in my time. ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Robbie63
Date Posted: 29-August-2009 at 16:01
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Genesis - "You Have Your Own Special Way" was played regularly when I went there, 80-83.
Pink Floyd -"Fearless" was played now and then. Yes -"Wonderous Stories". ------------- Robbie 
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Posted By: Grovegirl
Date Posted: 29-August-2009 at 16:30
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Genesis-' Ripples' was always a great slowie and 'Turn it On Again' was played often...'Mama' too....not sure if they fall into the prog rock category? That was in late 70's/early 80's GG |
.Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 29-August-2009 at 17:49
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Heya Martin, The Floyd tracks that I recall were 'Us and Them', 'Another Brick in the Wall', 'Money' (which you mentioned), 'Shine on You Crazy Diamond' and 'Fearless'. Yes tracks - 'Wondrous Stories' and 'Owner of a Lonely Heart'. Genesis (probably my fave band of all time) tracks 'Many too Many', 'I know what I like (in your wardrobe)', 'Carpet Crawlers', 'Mama', 'Ripples', 'Abacab', 'Your own Special Way', 'Turn it on again', 'Follow you, follow me'. Not sure what other bands fall within the 'prog rock' category - Greg Lake or ELP maybe? Or Marillion?  ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: ShortHairHippie
Date Posted: 29-August-2009 at 19:08
tanx guys I know most of those songs,but dont remember them at the Grove,so cheers for sharing  ------------- upon us all,a little rain must fall |
Posted By: monarch
Date Posted: 29-August-2009 at 23:49
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If You like Prog. Rock
here's a radio station for You. http://player.play.it/player/aolPlayer.html?v=4.7.121&ur=1&us=1&id=880 - http://player.play.it/player/aolPlayer.html?v=4.7.121&ur=1&u s=1&id=880 ------------- There is a crack in everything ...... that's how the light gets in |
Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 31-August-2009 at 10:10
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That's cool Frank! Have 10 presets now! God,there's like 20 odd
diffeent categories of Rock alone! Loving it. I don't remember Ripples at a slow set-that would have been just gorgeous dancing to someone to that. Mind you,I probably would have insisted on sitting down with eyes closed listening to every note. Couldn't tell the poor girl to stay quiet during the dance.... 'So,where are you from?'...'shut up woman,I'm listening to this...' ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |
Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 31-August-2009 at 11:13
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The Spirit of Radio by Rush,of course,one of the biggest
progressive rock bands in history (introduced to me by Brunswicks brother many moons ago) often got an airing down there too. And you're right Bruns + Robbie-Owner of a Lonely Heart was a regular-possibly well out of their prog era too,like many before them. Have a vague memory of Wondrous Stories too-what a classic. Yes,ELP were deffo prog giants (wasn't Fanfare...played?) and Marillion carried the genre into the 80's,having trouble remembering Kayleigh or Lavender though. ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |
Posted By: finno
Date Posted: 31-August-2009 at 20:41
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Wondrous stories was played as was Fanfare for the Common Man - ELP.
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Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 01-September-2009 at 21:34
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Martin - Temples of Syrinx and Bastille Day by Rush were also played in the early 80s.
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Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 02-September-2009 at 10:20
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Camel,Styx,Mike Oldfield all fall into the genre. Wasn't Mike
Oldfield played? Asia were formed from the prog giants and Only Time Will Tell with Heat of the Moment were Grove classics. ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |
Posted By: Chris Rooney
Date Posted: 02-September-2009 at 11:26
God damn hippies!  ------------- Lovely cushioned header, for Gerrard!!!! Oooooooooooh you beauty! What a hit son, what a hit!!!! |
Posted By: Taylor
Date Posted: 02-September-2009 at 12:51
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Many thanks for this great tip Monarch!! ------------- The Universe is a void full of infinite possibilities |
monarch wrote:Posted By: Esthalon
Date Posted: 02-September-2009 at 14:59
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Interesting Q Floyd...Bruns (the Guru of my era) got all the ones I remember. You've some memory Bruns! Right, I'm of to check out the web link. ------------- Smoke me a kipper I'll be back for Breakfast! |
Posted By: Esthalon
Date Posted: 02-September-2009 at 15:06
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That's the bookmark of the century!!!!!! What a variety. Mega thanks!!!! (You need to share this in chatroom) ------------- Smoke me a kipper I'll be back for Breakfast! |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 02-September-2009 at 22:26
Mike Oldfield, yep - one of those 'Christmas' songs and 'Moonlight Shadow'. I dont remember him ever playing Styx but I always thought that "Babe" by Styx would have made a brill slow song down there!!  ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 02-September-2009 at 22:29
It helps to have a lot of the records referred to here in 7" vinyl, June. Never managed to get "Fearless" or "Shine on You Crazy Diamond" on single though.  ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: ShortHairHippie
Date Posted: 03-September-2009 at 03:09
stop picking on the hippies,its not cool man ! ------------- upon us all,a little rain must fall |
Posted By: Chris Rooney
Date Posted: 03-September-2009 at 14:58
Yo like sorry doooooooooood! I'm an openminded metal fan, I listen to a wide range of different types of music, but Metal's first. Been called a hippie for years, cos I've long hair. Aren't people mad?  MOSH!!!!! ------------- Lovely cushioned header, for Gerrard!!!! Oooooooooooh you beauty! What a hit son, what a hit!!!! |
Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 04-September-2009 at 00:41
Yep,it would. As would Desert Moon, by Styx singer,Denis De Young. Funny,Styx were a big prog rock band in their day,but because they will be remembered for 'Babe',you don't first make the connection. Bit like when I first heard 'Owner of a Lonely Heart'(at the Grove),I never would have associated long keyboard solos or flowing cloaks with Yes on the strength of that one song. ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |
Posted By: Chris Rooney
Date Posted: 04-September-2009 at 00:46
Was Air Supply All outta love played or am I going gaga? ------------- Lovely cushioned header, for Gerrard!!!! Oooooooooooh you beauty! What a hit son, what a hit!!!! |
Posted By: Esthalon
Date Posted: 04-September-2009 at 09:07
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All Outta Love was always played when I was going, and for a long time it was always 1st song 2nd slow set. Definitely the main slow song I remember from my Grovin' days. (so you're not gaga) ------------- Smoke me a kipper I'll be back for Breakfast! |
Posted By: Chris Rooney
Date Posted: 04-September-2009 at 12:41
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I KNEW I was right, but for a sec thought all that Pernod, Vodka & Blackcurrant mixed together had dimmed me brain! ------------- Lovely cushioned header, for Gerrard!!!! Oooooooooooh you beauty! What a hit son, what a hit!!!! |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 04-September-2009 at 13:58
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You're right CR. Here's the track listing from the documentary and you can see Air Supply is in there. Here is the definitive list of songs in the documentary. Intro: More than a feeling - Boston The End - The Doors Whole lotta Love - Led Zeppelin Shes not there - Santana Positively 4th Street - Bob Dylan Children of the Revolution - T Rex Dust my Broom - Elmore James Jumping Jack Flash - Rolling Stones The Pusher - Steppenwolf Good time coming - Bitch White shade of pale - Procul Harum Changes - David Bowie Wish you were here - Pink Floyd Ramble On - Led Zeppelin All right now - Free Babe I'm gonna leave you - Led Zeppelin Black Betty - Ram Jam Smoke on the Water - Deep Purple Boys are back in Town - Thin Lizzy Alternative Ulster - Stiff Little Fingers She sells sanctuary - The Cult Walk - Pantera Epic - Faith No More Back in Black - AC/DC Break on Through - The Doors Boys Dont Cry - The Cure Ace of Spades - Motorhead Lola - The Kinks All out of Love - Air Supply Welcome to the Jungle - Guns n' Roses Just cant get enough - Depeche Mode Stairway to Heaven - Led Zeppelin Layla - Derek and the Dominoes Since you been gone - Rainbow Lay lady Lay - Bob Dylan Teenage Kicks - The Undertones More than a feeling (closing credits). ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: Chris Rooney
Date Posted: 04-September-2009 at 14:07
Cheers Pat, for restoring my faith in my brain!  ------------- Lovely cushioned header, for Gerrard!!!! Oooooooooooh you beauty! What a hit son, what a hit!!!! |
Posted By: muller
Date Posted: 05-September-2009 at 22:17
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I thought prog rock was more psychadelic fusion than hard rock. A guy at school was mad into King Crimson and I had the good fortune to listen to House of the Chrinsom King. Couldn't listen to it now. Yes, ELP and Frank Zappa & Mamas are as heavy as I want to go these days. There were alot of great Bristish bands that also pushed the boundaries - Traffic, Moody Blues, Jethro Tull. ------------- Life is for living |
Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 06-September-2009 at 14:29
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Anyone remember Gong? The Flying Teapot???
Prog rock was probably gened in the 70's,when a lot of psychedelic 60's bands 'grew up' and stopped playing 'nursery rhymes' (and Pink Floyd were definitely guilty of that) and they 'found' musical exploration. To this end,a lot of them decided to ditch the traditional 3-4 minute song format and 'allow' the song to take as long as it needed. The writers also decided to have a theme connecting all the songs together,telling a story,or having a variation on one song three or four times throughout the album. Often,a song might take up an entire side of a record. Thus was born the Concept Album,championed by the prog bands. To the hard rocker,the punks or the trendies, prog rock was usually identified by the keyboards. It became a lead instrument,with keyboard solos,not just airy layers in the background,along with other instruments such as the moog or mellotron. Songs such as Roundabout,Cygnas X-1,Suppers Ready,Tubular Bells,Tuesday Afternoon,Stratosfear 95,Shine on You Crazy Diamond all feature lead keyboard solos. Another defining attribute to the genre was the album covers. They usually eschewed the appearance of the band,and often the bands name or album title. And all too often instead of a photograph,a pastoral art depiction would adorn the sleeve,sometimes referencing the music inside (all of Pink Floyds covers detail the music in some way). This gave way to careers of many artists,such as Roger Dean,Boris Valejo,Mark Wilkinson and Rodney Matthews. (Most self respecting Grovers had at least one poster by one of these on their bedroom walls!) Marillion brought the sound into the 80's with Script for a Jesters Tear,when prog rock was quite unfashionable,but maintained a loyal,if not cult fan base. Now,or course there is a complete revival,not only with some of these old timers still touring,but with new bands such as Spock's Beard,Mostly Autumn,The Mars Volta and Tool. Odd prog connections... King Crimson Guitarist Robert Fripp is married to Toyah Wilcox, Johnny Rotten wore his famous 'I hate Pink Floyd' T shirt to divert the fact he actually liked them! Peter Sinfield,also of King Crimson,later went on to write songs for Bucks Fizz... Bob Geldof didn't want to appear in the Wall movie,saying he hated Pink Floyd. He ironically re-united the band twenty years later for Live 8. Hawkwinds one time voice was one of hard rocks hellraisers-Motorhead's Lemmy... Mike Oldields Tubular Bells has a morse code sequence played in it. When decoded,it spells F--k off RB...a stab at Richard Branson after Oldfield did not re-new his Virgin contract. ELP had to re-cruit a drummer whose name began with a 'P' after,Karl Palmer left,so enlisted Cozy Powell to keep the band name authentic. Buggles duo Geoff Downes and Trevor Horn,after 'Video Killed the Radio Star',were asked to join Yes and recorded 'Drama' in 1980. Prog giants Genesis for their Abacab album hire a horn section to play on No Reply at All,who were from disco chart toppers Earth,Wind and Fire. ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |
Posted By: finno
Date Posted: 07-September-2009 at 19:16
Buggles duo Geoff Downes and Trevor Horn,after 'Video Killed the Radio Star',were asked to join Yes and recorded 'Drama' in 1980. When this happened it put me off Pink Floyd for years ------------- A man must have a code |
Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 08-September-2009 at 19:02
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Why Pink Floyd Finno??? ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |
Posted By: Esthalon
Date Posted: 09-September-2009 at 10:29
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Ditto that...thought I was missing soemthing obvious! ------------- Smoke me a kipper I'll be back for Breakfast! |
Posted By: Aries
Date Posted: 09-September-2009 at 13:16
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Eeeeeeh !!!!!!! ------------- THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE BUT IT'LL PISS YOU OFF FIRST |
Posted By: Aries
Date Posted: 09-September-2009 at 13:17
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At least the Yes lyrics might have got a bit better ------------- THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE BUT IT'LL PISS YOU OFF FIRST |
Posted By: monarch
Date Posted: 10-September-2009 at 00:29
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You progressive rockers probably have seen this site
before. If not it's worth a look. http://www.progarchives.com/ - http://www.progarchives.com/ ------------- There is a crack in everything ...... that's how the light gets in |
Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 11-September-2009 at 12:08
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Have posted this in the upcoming tours thread but also here for any prog rock fans. Yes have just announced concert dates at the Waterfront Hall in Belfast on 25 November and Dublin's Olympia Theatre on 26 November 2009. Both shows are fully seated. Yes touring line-up; Original members Steve Howe, Chris Squire, Alan White, who are joined by Oliver Wakeman (son of Rick Wakeman) on keyboards, and Benoit David singing lead vocals. As a dominant force for more than four decades, Yes has sold more than 30 million albums worldwide, stretching the boundaries of progressive art-rock with their dynamic instrumental contrasts and abstract lyrics. Their symphonic use of sound and innovative musical styles continues to make them one of the most successful and long-standing group in rock history and their amazing career continues to defy many of their contemporaries, as they continue to add new, young fans to their following.DUBLIN TICKET INFORMATION Tickets from 39.20euro including booking fee are on sale now! In person: from 100 Ticketmaster outlets nationwide 24hr hotlines: Tel: ( ROI ) 0818 719 300 ( NI ) 0870 243 4455 Buy online: www.Ticketmaster.ie ------------- May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride. Biker Pat Grove 1972-1975 |
Posted By: RoundaboutToo!
Date Posted: 11-September-2009 at 23:07
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That's Great Pat, wonder if they'll play any early stuff?
Good link Frank, had forgotten about the progarchives site. hmm Prog Rock at the Grove: Genesis' Carpet Crawlers, Ripples, I Know What I Like.. great slow dances. I remember Cecil playing ELP's Lucky Man and From The Beginning (the flip side) probably on a few Sunday nights Hocus Pocus will always be a Grove Classic. |
Posted By: finno
Date Posted: 13-September-2009 at 22:26
Sorry folks was listening to Floyd at the time and meant to type Yes! I will try to read my posts before I click "post reply" ------------- A man must have a code |
Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 14-September-2009 at 17:02
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...and here endeth the mystery...
Yes Roundie...I remember bringing an album along to play before the Grove started proper. The hypnotic tones of A Saucerful of Secrets or Astronomy Domine used to drive the hard rockers nuts! Pat- I suppose thats not a bad concert price by these days standards,but would probably be nearly double that if Rick or Jon were playing with them. Tony and I went last time they played the Point (with the Symphonic Orchestra) and I wasn't impressed by the set list. OK-they played Roundabout but I really wanted to hear Wondrous Stories. They had just made Magnification and promoted that album mostly,which is what you do,I suppose,when you've just recorded something. Steve Howe did do a really nice acoustic guitar solo though. ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |
Posted By: Esthalon
Date Posted: 14-September-2009 at 22:11
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------------- Smoke me a kipper I'll be back for Breakfast! |
Posted By: finno
Date Posted: 18-September-2009 at 11:40
My excuse is age and/or dementia! ------------- A man must have a code |
Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 15-April-2010 at 19:57
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Alas,after having a shortcut to this since you posted it Frank,the station is now no longer available... Thanks for suggesting it! ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |