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    Posted: 20-August-2007 at 11:14

Okay...as Floydman...oops!!Posh Floyd suggested...here it is..the all new, bright and shiny Camera Thread. Any questions, observations, theories, downright sillyness even related to cameras and all their wonderfulness can be posted here.

It relates to ALL cameras...not just those big fancy SLR's and DSLR's.

Of course..it may well disappear into the oblivion of the archives...that's up to you dear member.

But for what it's worth here it is


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Great idea HD and Posh Floyd..........now all you camera "nerds" can come here and chat all day long about camera's and lens and who's is bigger than who's !!!!!! 

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Ohhh Arrr!!! I've got a big one....*snicker snicker*

Now..off with ya and do the Camera Poll...hehehe!!
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Okay...to start this thread running..

How about everyone tell us what type of camera you have ...and what bit and bobs go with it...?

My pride and joy is a Nikon D80 10mp DSLR, 50mm 1.8mm Prime Lens, 18-135mm Zoom Lens, 70-300mm Zoom Lens with Macro.

Also have two old style SLR's on the way from Ebay.A Ricoh KR10M and a Canon T50, both with assorted lenses. So gonna be doing that film thing soon as well.
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Why are you going back to film HD?

I have an old Olympus OM 1 SLR totally manual but a great camera also have a Pentax SLR with assortment of lenses

Hardly use either of them now as we have a little sony digital camera, small and light, point and shoot for happy snaps does the job just about


Years ago I was big into Photography used to develop and print my own stuff. But later on as I didn't have the darkroom facility any more I lost interest.

As mentioned somewhere else I hope to buy a Canon 400 or Nikon D80 soon, duty free, so I can get back into photography again. I also love playing around with Photoshop an amazing program no matter how much you learn there is always something more!

Reading about all the menu options on the Canon 400 nearly does my head in. I think initially I will use the 'automatic everything settings' until I figure it all out


Question for you HD or anyone else.
The Nikon D40 and Nikon D80 - big difference in price here. The only difference I know of between the two apart from price is that the Nikon D40 does not have automatic focus am I right in saying that? are there any other major differences that you know of?


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To answer your first question Freebird...I guess I am just curious what I could do with film. I pretty much missed the whole film thing..have only ever shot Digital since I got into it. So I just want to experience it and see how it compares. I'm booked on a course at the end of the month..a one day course in Darkroom printing and developing..another reason I bought the cameras. I only bought two cos I was drunk one night and bid on 5 different SLR's on ebay!! ended up winning two of them...;-)
They were cheap though so not complaining.

As regards the difference between a D40 and a D8O ..there are quite a few differences, reflected in the price difference. Don't really have time to go into all of them here..but basically the D40 is aimed at entry level  people with little or no experience of SLR's. It is limited in the type of lenses it can take, as far as I know it will only take Auto focus lenses..so you can;'t use any of the older manual Nikkor lenses. Also it does not take a battery grip..which would be important to me as it's a bit small and I like the battery grip for the convenience it gives when shooting in portrait mode.

Also if you check the specs you'll see that it falls short of the D80 in a number of technical areas as well..more of which later. What I would say is that if you plan on getting deeper into photography again then you'll feel limited by the D40 a lot quicker than the D80, which is basically a Semi-Pro camera. There are only two steps up from the D80..the D200, with which it shares a lot of features...and the D2X, which is the top of the line Pro Nikon.

You mught also look at the D200, which the D80 is more closely related to. It is more expensive, but is better built and has a few extra features.

Btw..I bought my D80 from Hong Kong and saved quite a bit of money. So that's something else to look at.


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Here's a Direct comparison between the two cameras that I found online. Btw..the site it's on is a brilliant camera resource site as well.

It's the D40X btw...which is the upgraded, and more expensive, version of the D40.


www.dpreview.com


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Well My camera is the Panasonic DMC-TZ3. It only has a small lens on it but it can Zoom in as good as some of those big LENS SLR camera. Size doesn't matter. Click on the link and check out the spec yourself.
For a complete an utter novice I recommend it. It takes great photos as you have seen and it has come down in price by up to €80 but shop around and waffle that you are getting a better offer somewhere else.
Its also great for getting into Concerts too

Roundy I have been taking around 150-300 photos when I take it out on a day.

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Thanks Pete...butI can'ttake the credit for the thread idea....was Posh Floyd's suggestion.

But it's up to us photography buffs to keep it going ..
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HD, Thanks for the link on the Nikon D80 v D40. Had done a search myself but didn't come up with much.

I think the Nikon D200 would be way over kill for what I need and would also blow the budget need to keep some funds for Guinness in Dublin


HD I am sure you will love the course, although after using digital and Photoshop you will probably find film limiting, unless you can develop and print your own





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Its so easy to start drowning in all this techo stuff with cameras, having all the gismos and gadgets does not necessarily mean you will take good photos, yes they will help but basically I think you can take a good photo with what ever camera you have, it all comes down to if you

‘Have and eye for it or not’

Good composition, interesting subject, and how you crop/frame a photo can make a huge difference.

Heres a link about composition that some may find helpful

www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/digitalphotography/learnmo re/composition.mspx



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Just tried link but something is wrong
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Finno,  take out the space before the word 'learnmore'

I can't paste the full link here either!

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Thanks for sorting the link problem Roundy just doesn't want to copy correctly into the reply box (bl***dy Macs)
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Hey HD

Just looking at the Nikon D80 and decided NOT to go for it... I was expecting it to be about €600-700 ... I will stick with my small len's one

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was looking at your cameras spec, P and would love one. it's tiny and the photos you took at the gigs were brilliant.

Im going to stick with my bulky Fuji for now too.

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Originally posted by freebird freebird wrote:

Its so easy to start drowning in all this techo stuff with cameras, having all the gismos and gadgets does not necessarily mean you will take good photos, yes they will help but basically I think you can take a good photo with what ever camera you have, it all comes down to if you

‘Have and eye for it or not’

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Heres a link about composition that some may find helpful

www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/digitalphotography/learnmo re/composition.mspx



Click here for Freebird link

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Originally posted by freebird freebird wrote:

Its so easy to start drowning in all this techo stuff with cameras, having all the gismos and gadgets does not necessarily mean you will take good photos, yes they will help but basically I think you can take a good photo with what ever camera you have, it all comes down to if you

‘Have and eye for it or not’

Good composition, interesting subject, and how you crop/frame a photo can make a huge difference.




100% agree Freebird. A lot of people "upgrade" to more expensive cameras and expect an immediate improvement in their shots. Of course when it doesn't happen they get disillusioned or annoyed. You can give someone a top of the range camera and if they haven't developed (excuse the pun) the basic skills they'll still take ordinary shots.

I used my first "proper" camera..the Fujifilm S5600 for the best part of a year and got to know it inside out and learned about composition and exposure and apertures and use of light before I looked at moving up. My main reason for upgrading to a full SLR was that I had outgrown the Fuji and found it quite limiting..especially with things like shutter lag ( still drives me mad when I use a P&S) and the rather clunky means of zooming and setting exposure values. It was quite liberating when I first got my hands on the D80..and it's not something you'll really appreciate until you use an SLR.

Once you get used to it, it's very hard to go back to using a Point and shoot camera.

Of course the great thing now, compared to when you used SLR's is that the price has really dropped, hence the amount of DSLR's you see on the street now, and if you want to shoot film then film SLR's..especially the older ones are being practically given away on Ebay and the likes. I bought my Canon T50 with a 35-70 zoom and a 75-200 zoom, a 2 x Extender, a flash unit, a set of Cokin filters and mount and a whole heap of screw on filters for just over €90!!

It's a good time to get into photography folks...film or digital...
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