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   A friend of mine recently sent me an email with the website for the Grove. This should have been done years ago! But what amazed me after looking at all the photos taken during the Reunions was how few members are registered in comparison!!!! Two or three of my friends in Ireland had told me about the Grove reunions, which I must admit if I was living there I would certainly love to attend.  My friends and I started going there in 1975 and just recently I found my old membership card which I never had the ability to throw out because each time I looked at it, it represented a very happy era in my life.  I so loved that time, the music, the fashion, the people and it seemed that everyone I met was into poetry, reading the "Hobbit", art, party going and in a band! Bands of that era that we use to go see were "Stryder", "Foul Play" etc and the band members were devotees of Grove Culture. When I think of the Grove I not only think of the Wednesdays, Saturdays and my favourite, the Sundays that I spend down there religiously for well over a decade but also the other places that were Grove related such as St. Anne's park where on our summer holidays from school and college my best friend and I would spend the days walking around Clontarf, Brookwood Ave,  and we patrolled with gusto the avenue in St. Anne's where many of the Grove goers of that time took up residence in the day time. It was like the place to go and see and be seen by other fellow Grovites. Plus it filled in the day time hours until the even came around and it was time to hit La Grove. I was a student in Art College at that time and when I think back on those days I recall the time when Grafton St had traffic, the Diceman, Woolworth's, Shree, Freebird Records and the Dandelion market were all in existence. I attended the National College of art and Design in Kildare St but spent more of my time hanging out up in Gaiety Green and over in Trinity! The Temple  Bar district was not even in its conception stages, The Roundabout in Artane had free flowing traffic that never got bunged up, and I was able to supply three quarters of North Country Dublin with "10 journey tickets" for the trains by purchasing them and getting the student rate. This delighted many of my Civil Servants Grove goer friends as they quite rightly felt that they had eventually got one up on the system! The local haunts of the day for my friends and I were Bruxelles, the Neptune, Harry Byrnes, Clontarf castle in the pre-face lift days, the Crofton Airport hotel (to see the Look-a-Likes, Stryder, Bogie Boys etc) and The Baggot Inn. Popular venues for post Grove nibbles were often a stop en route in the direction of one's home to "Lynches" on the Howth Road or the "Cosy Cafe" on the Malahide Road until it was rumored that they had been charged with using cat food in their burgers.

         To this day I still love the music of the early seventies and if I buy Cds, they usually revert back to that time. The songs I remember that were among some of my favourites were; "Nutbush City Limits", "Us & Them", "Wonderous Stories", "Tapestry", "Baker St", "Blue Monday","Cocaine", "SwingTown", "Smoke on the Waters", "Whiter Shade of Pale", "Nights in White Satin", "Our House", "Fame"(Mr. Bowie!), "One of these Nights", "At Seventeen", "The Joker", "You ain't seeing nothing yet", "Stairway to Heaven", "Dreams", "Tubular Bells", "Sweet home Alabama", "Smoke on the Water", "Spirits in the Sky", ......the list could go on forever. And I still love such artists as Genesis, Bad Company, Blue Oyster Cult, Hall & Oats, Fleetwood Mac, Michael McDonald, The Cars, Simple Minds, The Doors, David Bowie, Stevie Nicks, Thin Lizzy ( I was delighted to see Phil's statue outside of Bruxelles, another of my favourite haunts, when I was at home last month!)Tom Petty & the Heart breakers, Black Sabbath, Leonard Cohen, Talking Heads, Foreigner, Led Zeppelin, Dylan, The Cure, Horseslips, Bread, Neil Young, Steely Dan, Pink Floyd, Clifford T Ward, Roxy Music, The Doobie Bros ..... Standard Albums de la jour to have in your collection were "Rumors"- Fleetwood Mac, "Dark side of the Moon"-Pink Floyd, "Harvest"-Neil Young, "Bat out of Hell"-Meatloaf, Led Zeppelin, "IV" etc

I must confess I loved the fashions of that time and am absolutely in my element to see that all that hippie, gypsy chic is currently coming back into vogue and so my vintage clothing is getting a revival. I am sure that I am one of the only girls who was Grove obsessed and NEVER owned a pair of jeans in my life. All of my dresses had to be long and flowing and lucky for me I was fortunate to be able to design and make my own attire, complete with patchwork bags, embroidered ensembles and accessories. I loved the headbands, beaded hair, the silver & turquoise jewellery, rings on every finger and I have to admit that I never, changed nor matured in the slightest bit and as a result I just have an updated version of the same look. And not only that I am directing my young daughters in the same direction fashion wise. Not only am I stuck in the 70s/early 80s era musically, fashionwise and mentally but I still feel and act as I did when I was 17yrs old. I never progressed a bit past that age and so that is the age in my mind I am stuck at. My friend is stuck at 19yrs old so I get solace from knowing that there are others out there suffering from this disorder. When I think of the Grove I also remember how everyone seemed to have their own designated place where they religiously sat or danced each week so if you wanted to find someone that you knew, it was not a mind blowing task. Our place of residence was usually down by the extension, on the nights it was open. The only characters I remember who stood out was a guy Marcus who use to also play a flute up a tree in St. Anne's park. I'm sure that is good to have on your CV though. Most of the people that I met there and became friends with I often see and meet when I am in Dublin and the best bit of all is none of them have changed in the least. On paper the years may be showing but in spirit we still the same as the good old days. I attended St. Mary's Secondary school and so many of my class were regulars of the Grove Institution. I often wonder what ever happened to all my classmates..... we left school in 1979...would love to hear from them. It is a pity that there was not a postboard on the site where people could display their old membership card and see who remembers who from that! That would certainly make interesting if not fun viewing dot Com!

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Ann Whelan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Active Member Joined: 10-October-2005 Location: Saint Lucia Status: Offline Points: 88	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ann Whelan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 1975-mid 80s Posted: 12-October-2005 at 10:40
	A friend of mine recently sent me an email with the website for the Grove. This should have been done years ago! But what amazed me after looking at all the photos taken during the Reunions was how few members are registered in comparison!!!! Two or three of my friends in Ireland had told me about the Grove reunions, which I must admit if I was living there I would certainly love to attend. My friends and I started going there in 1975 and just recently I found my old membership card which I never had the ability to throw out because each time I looked at it, it represented a very happy era in my life. I so loved that time, the music, the fashion, the people and it seemed that everyone I met was into poetry, reading the "Hobbit", art, party going and in a band! Bands of that era that we use to go see were "Stryder", "Foul Play" etc and the band members were devotees of Grove Culture. When I think of the Grove I not only think of the Wednesdays, Saturdays and my favourite, the Sundays that I spend down there religiously for well over a decade but also the other places that were Grove related such as St. Anne's park where on our summer holidays from school and college my best friend and I would spend the days walking around Clontarf, Brookwood Ave, and we patrolled with gusto the avenue in St. Anne's where many of the Grove goers of that time took up residence in the day time. It was like the place to go and see and be seen by other fellow Grovites. Plus it filled in the day time hours until the even came around and it was time to hit La Grove. I was a student in Art College at that time and when I think back on those days I recall the time when Grafton St had traffic, the Diceman, Woolworth's, Shree, Freebird Records and the Dandelion market were all in existence. I attended the National College of art and Design in Kildare St but spent more of my time hanging out up in Gaiety Green and over in Trinity! The Temple Bar district was not even in its conception stages, The Roundabout in Artane had free flowing traffic that never got bunged up, and I was able to supply three quarters of North Country Dublin with "10 journey tickets" for the trains by purchasing them and getting the student rate. This delighted many of my Civil Servants Grove goer friends as they quite rightly felt that they had eventually got one up on the system! The local haunts of the day for my friends and I were Bruxelles, the Neptune, Harry Byrnes, Clontarf castle in the pre-face lift days, the Crofton Airport hotel (to see the Look-a-Likes, Stryder, Bogie Boys etc) and The Baggot Inn. Popular venues for post Grove nibbles were often a stop en route in the direction of one's home to "Lynches" on the Howth Road or the "Cosy Cafe" on the Malahide Road until it was rumored that they had been charged with using cat food in their burgers. To this day I still love the music of the early seventies and if I buy Cds, they usually revert back to that time. The songs I remember that were among some of my favourites were; "Nutbush City Limits", "Us & Them", "Wonderous Stories", "Tapestry", "Baker St", "Blue Monday","Cocaine", "SwingTown", "Smoke on the Waters", "Whiter Shade of Pale", "Nights in White Satin", "Our House", "Fame"(Mr. Bowie!), "One of these Nights", "At Seventeen", "The Joker", "You ain't seeing nothing yet", "Stairway to Heaven", "Dreams", "Tubular Bells", "Sweet home Alabama", "Smoke on the Water", "Spirits in the Sky", ......the list could go on forever. And I still love such artists as Genesis, Bad Company, Blue Oyster Cult, Hall & Oats, Fleetwood Mac, Michael McDonald, The Cars, Simple Minds, The Doors, David Bowie, Stevie Nicks, Thin Lizzy ( I was delighted to see Phil's statue outside of Bruxelles, another of my favourite haunts, when I was at home last month!)Tom Petty & the Heart breakers, Black Sabbath, Leonard Cohen, Talking Heads, Foreigner, Led Zeppelin, Dylan, The Cure, Horseslips, Bread, Neil Young, Steely Dan, Pink Floyd, Clifford T Ward, Roxy Music, The Doobie Bros ..... Standard Albums de la jour to have in your collection were "Rumors"- Fleetwood Mac, "Dark side of the Moon"-Pink Floyd, "Harvest"-Neil Young, "Bat out of Hell"-Meatloaf, Led Zeppelin, "IV" etc I must confess I loved the fashions of that time and am absolutely in my element to see that all that hippie, gypsy chic is currently coming back into vogue and so my vintage clothing is getting a revival. I am sure that I am one of the only girls who was Grove obsessed and NEVER owned a pair of jeans in my life. All of my dresses had to be long and flowing and lucky for me I was fortunate to be able to design and make my own attire, complete with patchwork bags, embroidered ensembles and accessories. I loved the headbands, beaded hair, the silver & turquoise jewellery, rings on every finger and I have to admit that I never, changed nor matured in the slightest bit and as a result I just have an updated version of the same look. And not only that I am directing my young daughters in the same direction fashion wise. Not only am I stuck in the 70s/early 80s era musically, fashionwise and mentally but I still feel and act as I did when I was 17yrs old. I never progressed a bit past that age and so that is the age in my mind I am stuck at. My friend is stuck at 19yrs old so I get solace from knowing that there are others out there suffering from this disorder. When I think of the Grove I also remember how everyone seemed to have their own designated place where they religiously sat or danced each week so if you wanted to find someone that you knew, it was not a mind blowing task. Our place of residence was usually down by the extension, on the nights it was open. The only characters I remember who stood out was a guy Marcus who use to also play a flute up a tree in St. Anne's park. I'm sure that is good to have on your CV though. Most of the people that I met there and became friends with I often see and meet when I am in Dublin and the best bit of all is none of them have changed in the least. On paper the years may be showing but in spirit we still the same as the good old days. I attended St. Mary's Secondary school and so many of my class were regulars of the Grove Institution. I often wonder what ever happened to all my classmates..... we left school in 1979...would love to hear from them. It is a pity that there was not a postboard on the site where people could display their old membership card and see who remembers who from that! That would certainly make interesting if not fun viewing dot Com!
	Ann

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Rolo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group �79 - �85 Joined: 08-July-2005 Status: Offline Points: 9282	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rolo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14-October-2005 at 12:04
	Ann, Can't believe you're the first person on the site to mention Marcus.Often wondered what happened to him. Notice you didn't mention Zero Zero when you were talking about the popular local bands of the day. How you could class The Lookalikes in the same sentence as Stryder is beyond me. Zero Zero contained a singer / bass player who always wore Red and Black striped trousers, a drummer from Donaghmede and a guitar player with the biggest head of curly hair you ever saw. They were popular from about '82 - '85 so you must have been aware of them.

Ann Whelan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Active Member Joined: 10-October-2005 Location: Saint Lucia Status: Offline Points: 88	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ann Whelan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14-October-2005 at 17:20
	Marcus use to attend quite a lot of the parties and venues that I attended around that time. He was a regular patron of the Flowing Tide/Neptude. Believe it or not there were quite a good few Grove Goers of that day who use to go to see the LookAlikes and some of them Stryder members! You may need a valium after hearing that but it is very true! I met all of Stryder up there along with many of their loyal followers of the time! A while back some one sent me a Classmates Irish website and who of all people did I meet on that only Alan Quigley the lead singer in Stryder.....we had a great correspondence catching up on old times and finding out what everyone else was doing! great fun.
	Ann

russell Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Really Senior Member 82-85 Joined: 15-September-2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1879	Post Options Post Reply Quote russell Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17-October-2005 at 15:54
	Ann Good to read to read your memories of the grove, it really brought me back especially the mention of names like Stryder, and Marcas. When I was going down to the grove the i'd heard the mention of Marcus a few times, and as I remember i'd also heard stories of him playing playing flute from a treetop, but I never quite worked out if it was true or not, but his name was legendary at the grove. as far as the bands of those days were concerned I knew zero zero well . i went to scholl with the lead guitarists brother. zero zero were as follows John costello -guitar, Robbie poole- drums and i think it wae Eion on bass. they played the Ivy rooms a few times, the above trio would always go down to the grove about 11:30 (after a few pints at the nep I imagine ) I remember the name stryder so many times but cant remember if i ever saw them. i also loved going to watch people like Freedie White and Scullion down at the Baggot. I know Freedie whites still knocking about, but does anyone know what happened to Scullion?. living in london makes it hard to keep track !! Russell
	Russ

Rolo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group �79 - �85 Joined: 08-July-2005 Status: Offline Points: 9282	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rolo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18-October-2005 at 08:29
	Russell, You're bang on about Zero Zero. ( I just didn't want to mention any names but since you've started the ball rolling ) ........the Bass Player with the Red and Black striped trousers was Colm Darcy. Rolo

Ann Whelan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Active Member Joined: 10-October-2005 Location: Saint Lucia Status: Offline Points: 88	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ann Whelan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18-October-2005 at 13:53
	Hi Russell, yes I do remember Scullion and freddie White...your memory is a lot more alert & sharper than mine. Philip king and I think it was Sonny Condell use to come into the National College of Art & Design where I attended and do the odd gig which was great. I still can't remember Zero Zero although I do remember red & black stripey jeans!!!
	Ann

Ann Whelan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Active Member Joined: 10-October-2005 Location: Saint Lucia Status: Offline Points: 88	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ann Whelan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18-October-2005 at 14:25
	Also around that time I remember going to the Fairview Cinema to see the Talking Heads movie of the day where three quarters of the audience would know each other and it was always lots of fun. The same applied to Pink Floyd's "The Wall" & Slane Castle to see the Rolling Stones ....
	Ann

Stevie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member 1976-81ish Joined: 22-July-2005 Location: Raheny Dublin Status: Offline Points: 295	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stevie Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18-October-2005 at 17:32
	Hi Ann, Us, St. Mary's girls have to stick together! I left there in 1980 but I don't remember an Ann Whelan? "Stevie" by the way is only in deference to Stevie Nicks, it sounds like you were one of the girls I really envied doing all that dressmaking & embroidery (see my memory lane post!!). I remember the Croften Airport Hotel so well & The Lookalikes...in fact the one and only time I was refused entry to The Grove was when myself and a gang bounced through the gate of St. Pauls singing (well howling) "Can I take you home tonight" and one of the bouncers said we should go on home right now.Honestly, I was stone cold sober..the indignity of it!!!! I forgotten about Stryder until you mentioned them...don't know Zero Zero at all...does anyone remember Rocky De Valera & the Grave Diggers? loved Freddie White too. I remember the big green in the centre of a much different Roundabout on the Malahide Road and a bench in the middle, anyone remember "The Benchers" as they were called a gang from the Grove who congregated there..you know, long hair and duffle coats...etc I know one of them was Mark Alfred he lived on St. Brigid's Road and a few years later was killed off his motorbike, think maybe there was a Liam as well-perhaps someone else knows them. Stevie

Ann Whelan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Active Member Joined: 10-October-2005 Location: Saint Lucia Status: Offline Points: 88	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ann Whelan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19-October-2005 at 08:46
	Hi Stevie, I left ST. Mary's educatioanal system in 1979 so I would probably have knowing you to see. I live in the West Indies now but I still keep in contact with a lot of my friends from school. Often I ask them if they have kept in contact with other school friends and it is as if half of St. Mary's has fallen off the plannet!!! I remember the time that guy was killed off his motorbike. I lived in Artane and use to walk past the Roundabout on a daily basis........I liked it in it's natural format even before they stuck those high trees (landscaping I presume) in the centre of it and you could see when the buses were coming. I' don't recall any of the bencher mob but you may have remembered down by the shops where Bradleys Chemist was there was always a group loitering there...Robbie Coady etc....they also were Grove converts and went to the Neptune, Bruxelles, Crofton and attended the same parties!!! Yes I remember Rocky De Valera. I have to say I loved Stevie Nicks music and have gone to see her in concert a few times. I use to go to the "Oasis" down in Ard Scoil Ris and I remember everytime that the played "Dreams" there was a guy there who use to ask me up and religiously tell my that I looked like Stevie Nicks. I never tragically saw the resemblence myself but maybe he was suffering from substance abuse which would be unheard of in those days! I never was hip enough to get refused entry into the Grove Establishment but I was underage getting my membership there, for the "Oasis" and "Joey's". It is amazing what a bit of make up can do. I use to try to make myself look older to get into places and then try and pay the cheap fares on the bus, which was often taking me to such venues!!!!
	Ann

Stevie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member 1976-81ish Joined: 22-July-2005 Location: Raheny Dublin Status: Offline Points: 295	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stevie Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19-October-2005 at 11:34
	Ann, You're a tonic! and you're bringing back memories by the minute, I think a classmate of mine went out with Robbie for a good while if I've got the correct Robbie? think he was a bit of a heart throb in those days! you've hit on the correct gang by the way. Loved the "Oasis" too though THAT feels like a very long time ago, one of my friends kept trying to set us all up with her brother there who was such a geek, made life really difficult and she adored him.Very embarressingly I also went to the Ard Scoil R�s "Ceil�s" as well -oh the horror! & "Joeys" Leslie Rogers a friend of mine was in your year at school-don't think she was a big Grove fan though, not like me I lived for it! People keep telling me that Dublin is such a small place but I've only encountered 3 people from school since I've left-where did they go? maybe West Indies like yourself and other far flung places... Isn't this site great fun? I would love to make the re-union but I'm in Killarney that week, "Come as you were party" scary!!! now its just a small matter of losing 9 stone and growing my hair long and dyeing it in 3 weeks??? Stevie

Ann Whelan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Active Member Joined: 10-October-2005 Location: Saint Lucia Status: Offline Points: 88	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ann Whelan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19-October-2005 at 12:45
	Hi Stevie, Leslie Rogers came over here to me to celbrate her 40th birthday!!!She was over in Barbados on hols and popped on a plane and came over on a visit. Her brother has been out here on hols with me as has half of my road, north county Dublin and family members I have not heard from in years all suddenly appear. I love the hilarity of it all and enjoy the visits immensely! I was in the same class in St. Brigids (now we are really getting vintage!) as Leslie and her sister Jackie. I even did a portrait of Jackie for Leslies birthday that their brother commisioned me to do for Leslie. I knew Robbie as he lived at the Roundabout, which seems to be taking on a central and very prominent life of it's own since I joined this site. The last time I met him was about 4 years ago and he is still exactly the same, except the lock tresses were traded in for shoulder lenght. Often after the Grove he would come back to my house and my mother would ask him if he would like a drink as in tea or coffee! He would look over at the whisky and say he'd have an usice Beatha. My poor mother never drank in her like and poured half pint portions so he'd think this was hilarious and always left my doors well elubricated a la carte I am happy to say!!!!!! She also use to send him home with bags of food as she was under the impression that anyone who lived in and I quote "a flat". End of quote, did not eat. All their money she believed went on rent and alcohol. Well at least she got the latter right! I must ressurect my 21st birthday photos as Robbie and co, and quite a lot from the Grove were at it, and once I see the faces I'll remember a lot more...Alan and Dermot Flood etc. My mother, may she rest in peace, was monitoring the bar as she said that she wanted to have control over the alcohol consumption by those present. I was mortified when she broke this news to me as well you can imagine. Well I could have saved myself all the worry as she was dishing out half pint glasses (with no ice nor mixers) of Blue label Vodka!!!! One guy fell down the stairs, another guy crashed into the kitchen cabinet and knocked the whole thing off the wall, another friend of mine started a cream flan throwing episode, .... my mother later confided that she was so impressed with how most of "that crowd" = Grove people only came to the kitchen for one drink. What she was not aware of was that half of them had passed out in the front room!!! Half a pint of de blue label vodka has that effect on you! If you went to the "Oasis" you probably knew Dermot O'Neil .... If you were the year behind me did you know Antonia Bell, Elaine & Margaret Moore as they were in that year. ...
	Ann

Rolo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group �79 - �85 Joined: 08-July-2005 Status: Offline Points: 9282	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rolo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19-October-2005 at 13:01
	Hello Ann, Any chance I could join in this little conversation you're having with Stevie as I think I have you now. Think you lived in Maryfield or Ardcollum. I'm from top of Ardlea Road and was friendly with Elaine and Margaret Moore for a few years. Were you Elaine's mate with the blonde hair ? If you were then you'd surely know John Daly who knocked around with us back then. Rolo

Ann Whelan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Active Member Joined: 10-October-2005 Location: Saint Lucia Status: Offline Points: 88	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ann Whelan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19-October-2005 at 13:27
	Hi Rolo, did you have black curly hair??? Yes, I lived on Maryfield cres and was friends with Carol, Elaine & Margaret's sister. I went to Art College with Olive Daly, John's sister!!! Did you live on the Ardlea Road up near Stephen (he lived in the end corner house) around the corner from the Moores. Carol came here on hols too!!!!!! Stephen went to the Grove too and hung around with John Corcoran. He is coming on hols here in the next month!!!!!!! This is getting to be quite hilarious!!!! Just found my Grove card and was about to scan it...Can you put a pic on this site. Naturally enough, it is rather the same as what they say about a passport....if you look anything like that in life, then you are not well enough to travel!!!!
	Ann

Rolo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group �79 - �85 Joined: 08-July-2005 Status: Offline Points: 9282	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rolo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20-October-2005 at 08:19
	Ann, Are you referring to Stephen Matthews ?, if so I went to school with him and with John Corcoran. Sadly the long black curly hair is no more but you've got the right man. Still see John Daly on and off , in fact meeting him next week and will relay your regards. Still see Margaret the odd time but haven't seen Elaine for years. Do you know where she's at. I'd my old membership on display at my recent 40th along with many other old photos from the Grove era. Fantastic memories. Rolo

Ann Whelan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Active Member Joined: 10-October-2005 Location: Saint Lucia Status: Offline Points: 88	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ann Whelan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21-October-2005 at 07:21
	Hi Rolo, Elaine is married and lives in the states. Say hi to John. What is he doing now? Yes it was Stephen Mathews that I was referring to. Met him about 3 yrs ago with John. Still as laid back as ever.I'd love to see your 40th photos!!!!!
	Ann

Rolo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group �79 - �85 Joined: 08-July-2005 Status: Offline Points: 9282	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rolo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02-November-2005 at 12:27
	Ann, Met John Daly at weekend and sends his regards. Believe it or not he's got 4 kids,from 19 to 4. Still in the carpentry business and still as much crack as all those years ago. Rolo

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	Hi Ann, Thanks for your long letters, you are jarring memories from my eternally 18-year old brain. I think I was in school with Marcus - red curly hair? Chanel College, we left in '76, lived in the Grove from '77 - '80, then I eventually joined the rat-race. My memories of Marcus were a girl under each arm, and great parties at his house. I vaguely remember a lot of smoke, as Marcus kept sl*gging some guy who didn't partake, calling him "Dude". A girl said that she would have committed suicide if not for Patti Smith! Marcus called his dad by his first name (Tony, I think it was). I'm going to encourage my two sons to do likewise (unless they turf me out, first!) Anyway, have to go, cheers...
	Remember when you were young?

Ann Whelan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Active Member Joined: 10-October-2005 Location: Saint Lucia Status: Offline Points: 88	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ann Whelan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07-November-2005 at 07:23
	Hi ExArtanehead, I am not sure what educational system Marcus attended as in those days I must confess that education was not high on de list of popular topics to discuss!!! I'm sure that the Samaritans will be eternally grateful to the said Patti Smith for preventing an unnecessary end to life!!!! I am sure that drink or some other substance had been taken and would have been thriving and circulating in de aul blood stream when that thought came (& went equally as fast) to pass!!!! It is amazing how certain songs bring back certain memories. Although Gloria Gaynor always gave me a colonic irritation I do remember how when I was doing my leaving Cert in the summer of '79, that song (which I absolutely dreaded with gusto!) "I will survive"- gave me great solace that I would indeed pass the said Leaving!!!! If only I put as much thought, study and effort into working as I did into wishing for miracles, I could have done wonders with the world! Another song I remember which always brought back memories was "Torn between two lovers" as I recall at the time that was out there were two guys who I use to like who suddenly appeared, just like the C.I.E busses, on the scene at the very same time. when they phoned our house I would never answer the phone but made my poor tormented mother (who I must confess actually loved all this action as I was the only girl in our house...so she only had to go thru it all once, plus I got away with murder!) answer the phone. I would ask who was on the phone, A or B, and she would dramatically reply who ever it was and would declare that she was not taking my messages any more. When I would get off the phone I would return to her singing "Torn between two lovers" and hard as she would try not to, she would burst out laughing. To this date I still use songs and burst into song to illustrate a point. When my 6yr & 4yr old are having a "heated discussion" over something that they want, be it food or whatever I calmly turn around and say to them and I quote "As our great role model and forefather Mick Jagger once said 'You don't always get what you wanttttttt, you don't always get what you wanttttt, but if you try sometimes, you might just get what you need!" End of quote Dot Com! It is hilarious as my offspring take and remember all this in good faith and I great great amusement when the pair of them will be looking for something and then out of the blue, Andres who is 6yrs will turn to his sister and say ever so seriously "Veacha! remember what mommy always says!" Mommy is usually at this point in time dot com standing like a gobsh*te in the dark wondering just what it is that I am meant to always say, as I must confess I do have quite a lots of musical quotes that come to pass! He will then break into "As our great role model and forefather Mick Jagger once said 'You don't always get what you wanttttttt ......." I'm sure Mick would be thrilled! PS.Whatever happened to Bob Smith Poster PinUp Boy for the Grove Website Reg. No 18491 ???????
	Ann

ExArtanehead Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie 76-80 Joined: 01-November-2005 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 48	Post Options Post Reply Quote ExArtanehead Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08-November-2005 at 01:37
	Ah Ann, Chanel class of '76, a classic! I managed to do pretty much nothing for five years after a piss-poor LC, but they caught up with me in 1980, when I was conscripted, kicking and screaming, into the technology revolution. On the subject of songs, I brought a Television single in for Cecil to play, Marquee Moon, but he wouldn't play it, saying "No punk rock, sorry" He definitely didn't know any punk music, did he?! Also on bands, yeah, the Bogey Boys, and also Kathmandu, remember them in the Baggot? priceless! They did a great rendition of "Ashes to Ashes", and their own stuff was great too. My two boys, 8 and 6, both love Thin Lizzy (I keep telling them that they do), and keep asking me to play their favourite songs: The Boys are Back in Town, I'm Afraid of Americans, Dancing in the Streets(Bowie/Jagger), Fireball (DP), By the Way by the Chilis; I mean there are so many good songs from the Grove era, AND after, it's just marvellous, isn't it? Sorry, waffling on here, time to go again. Did you know Liz Holohan, Imelda Tierney, or Nuala can't-think-of-her-last-name?
	Remember when you were young?

eejit91 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Grove Years 1979-1983-84ish Joined: 12-October-2005 Location: Sometimes here and sometime Status: Offline Points: 8180	Post Options Post Reply Quote eejit91 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08-November-2005 at 10:47
	I enjoy reading your stuff Ann and ditto on the music front as I have my two little ones in the car with me asking constantly for "Dreamer".. They love Super Tramp - they are turning into my proper little Grove molds.
	"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better."