Howard Jones!
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Topic: Howard Jones!
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Subject: Howard Jones!
Date Posted: 01-December-2006 at 00:13
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Hiya gang! Just a quick trivia question. I'm not a fan of the guy, but does anyone remember if Cecil played any Howard Jones songs at the Grove, between maybe 1980 to 1986. If he played any of his songs, I would imagine that they are slow songs, but I just cant recall. Anyone know? ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
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Posted By: irish_mammy
Date Posted: 01-December-2006 at 01:47
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Morning Mel, Don't remember any Howard Jones during my time roughly 80-84 ------------- Lesley 25th June - 25th July. Get organising my nights out. Child can stay in the car. Grove 1980-1984 |
Posted By: Mins
Date Posted: 01-December-2006 at 09:07
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Morning..
Cecil definitely did not play any Howard Jones....1984 -1987 anyhow. Peak H.J.time would have been 1984/85 when he released the "Humanīs Lib" Album. He was a good synth player that is for sure. Boppy stuff I know and of course not everyonesī cup of tea but I have the above Album and I play it from time to time. My daughter is good on the synth and she listens to this for basic mixes and stuff. Yes he released a few singles you would remember and the only one with ANY potential for a slowey would have been " Hide and Seek"..you would remember it if you heard it....check youtube.com ( if you are that enthusiastic - NOT ) !!!! He was the first person I saw in concert wearing one of those head mics. and I thought that was cool, that and his bright orange jumpsuit and docks... I thought he was magnificant flying from one keyboard to another with no back up from anybody....different. whatever yer inta as they say... Shant bore you any more..Dec 01 already. To-day will be a bad day for traffic, 3/4 of Madrid head on a weeks hol out of the city to their respective pueblos...lucky them.... ME 
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Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 01-December-2006 at 21:26
Ta Lesley and Mins!  ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Mins
Date Posted: 01-December-2006 at 22:12
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Hey Bruns...
Is this a familiar lyric to you ??? "...my Mam says weīre a pair of perverts... got any badges, posters, stickers or t-shirts? " Is that a SPLOGESISABOUNDS lyric ????? 
ME 
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Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 01-December-2006 at 22:23
Eeek, not sure Mins...only know the three Splodgenessabounds tracks - "Two Pints of Lager and a packet of crisps please", "Simon Templar" and "Michael Booths talking bum"  and I dont think those lyrics are in any of those... ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Mins
Date Posted: 01-December-2006 at 22:30
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Sorry for the bad spelling of group name....
that silly lyric is annoying me now....but what about "Simon Templar is so hunky...all his birds are really funky "!!!!! Correct no ???? Daft altogether.... Anyhow will search on...... ME
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Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 01-December-2006 at 22:36
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Re band spelling Mins, not even sure if I spelt it correctly - too lazy to check the single in the cabinet. Your Simon Templar lyric is correct, mad lyrics altogether. ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 02-December-2006 at 18:18
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Bruns...Hide and Seek was a definite...not a bad tune,either. ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |
Posted By: Mins
Date Posted: 02-December-2006 at 18:25
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Howdy....
stand corrected so...have ZIP recollection of him playing Hide and Seek...maybe I just wasnīt there... do remember "Romeo and Juliet" though.... 
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! ME
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Posted By: Pogue Mahoney
Date Posted: 03-December-2006 at 03:18
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Except for "Positively 4th Street" It was hard to get Cecil to play Dylan back in
the late sixties and impossible to get him to play anything by Fairport Convention or Steeleye Span. He was all "JeTaime" and PP Arnold and mushy stuff. |
Posted By: Mins
Date Posted: 03-December-2006 at 14:42
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Mins wrote:Posted By: Fester
Date Posted: 03-December-2006 at 15:04
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Ho-Jo was definitely played, I thought it was "What is Love" (not sure about title, he was big for about 2 weeks back then, remember he even played at Live Aid! Has nobody else mentioned the classic Rock the Casbah? with the "altered" chorus line that everyone used to shout? and of course Depeche Mode, I Just Cant Get Enough, which we all finished off with "Sex"? Or was that just me and my sad mates??  |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 03-December-2006 at 15:22
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Hey Fester, I think lots of us used to shout out "Sex!" for the Just cant get enough song! Well, everyone I hung out with did anyway ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Mins
Date Posted: 03-December-2006 at 16:15
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Rock the Casbah was one of my favourites....
Did he play " The Smiths " ..What difference does it make ?? " Other bands I liked from the 80īs...not sure what tracks were played at the Grove... Echo and the Bunnymen Everything But the Girl Prefab Sprout Other sloweeeees... 10 CC ( Iīm not in love...so donīt forget...itīs just a silly phase...................) Bread Nada mas, ME
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Posted By: Mins
Date Posted: 03-December-2006 at 16:40
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Another sloweee..
John Waite "Missing You" ME
PS. Did Cecil play any Billy Idol...I am a huge fan of his stuff but donīt remember any tracks being played. I am sure I am wrong. Also he played " Rebel, rebel youīve torn your dress, rebel, rebel yourīre face is a mess....." WHO sang that ??? Was it Iggy Pop ???? Dunno. 
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Posted By: aurnia
Date Posted: 03-December-2006 at 16:42
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It was David Bowie. |
Posted By: Mins
Date Posted: 03-December-2006 at 16:44
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Ta...
yer man mustha done a cover.... ME
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Posted By: aurnia
Date Posted: 03-December-2006 at 16:51
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Billy Idol sang Rebel Yell. Another big hit. Yep Cecil played the Smiths, Echo and Bunnymen. I'm sure he played Prefab's Jumping Frog. If not I deffo remember the song from the 80's.. I think but couldn't swear on it, that he also played Llyd Cole's Rattlesnakes - good song. Must dig out my vinyl LP again! We did indeed sing Depeche with the additional chorus - wasn't restricted to The Grove thing. It was all over Dublin if IRC. |
Posted By: Fester
Date Posted: 03-December-2006 at 18:57
| Forgot about the Smiths track, the opening line "all men have secrets and here is mine" always sparked a load of dodgy Morrissey-type arm-waving, also the Bunnymen, definitely remember The Cutter and Bring on the Dancing Horses went down well, Lloyd Cole too, Rattlesnakes and Perfect Skin, this forum is great for jogging the memory cells! |
Posted By: Fester
Date Posted: 03-December-2006 at 19:00
| Just remembered! Going Underground by the Jam (at 3 minutes to 1) used to be last song on a fair few nights and used to kick off a good oul shoving and pushing melee! They probably call it moshing these days? Made the walk home in the piddling rain worth it! |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 03-December-2006 at 21:24
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Hey Mins, The Smiths were played alright and I seem to recall "This Charming Man", "What difference does it make" and (possibly) "hang the DJ"... Echo and the bunnymen, I remember "Seven Seas", "The Cutter", "Bring on the dancing horses" (as Fester said) and "The Killing Moon". I dont recall Prefab Sprout or Everything but the Girl... By the way Fester, Going Underground by the Jam - what a great song! ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Fester
Date Posted: 03-December-2006 at 22:52
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One of the reasons I loved the Grove so much was the pure diversity of Cecils taste, instead of being categorised as a hippy / a rocker / a new romantic / a goth / whatever, you could go along and dance your ars off to Led Zep followed by Bowie followed by the Jam followed by Jetro Tull and then the Clash, then Dexys Midnight Runners into Santana into Howard Jones and right back to Lynyrd Skynyrd or whatever, all in the same half hour! And the message was simple: Open your ears, its all music and its all great. The Grove was the REAL Eclectic Ballroom! |
Posted By: irish_mammy
Date Posted: 04-December-2006 at 08:45
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Well said Fester, How we miss it. ------------- Lesley 25th June - 25th July. Get organising my nights out. Child can stay in the car. Grove 1980-1984 |
Posted By: crusty
Date Posted: 02-January-2007 at 20:33
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I second that. Well said Fester! That sums it up for me. Still being broadbandless (did I just make up a word?) !!! - I don't get much time to browse through the site apart from the odd announcement here and there, but this topic caught my attention - Howard Jones?!? This is probably not the best move by admitting this, but, I used to love that guy - New Song, Things Can Only Get Better and the classic No One Is To Blame (a band I was in years ago even covered that song!) and my claim to shame - I went to see him in The Olympia in 1993 (I think). Himself and Nik Kershaw, 80's legends in my book! ------------- I'm not even supposed to be here today! |
Posted By: crusty
Date Posted: 02-January-2007 at 20:34
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...tumbleweed... I'll get me coat! ------------- I'm not even supposed to be here today! |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 02-January-2007 at 20:57
Howard Jones and Nik Kershaw always remind me of the old Sunday RTE classic, MT USA, with fab Vinny! They certainly weren't the worst Crusty!  ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Mins
Date Posted: 02-January-2007 at 22:17
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Hey One Eyed Bruns..
I had a long post composed on that very topic " MT USA " last month and for some reason I deleted it. Maybe I thought it was journeying way off the mark or was probably down right boring...anyhows.... MT USA was one of the first Irish born Music Video Shows, on the rebel station RTE 2 as it was called back in the 80īs. Up until then music videos were just boring studio recordings with the band miming the vocals in the company of dodgey lighting, dancers throwing shapes etc. You only really got to see these on TOTP. This show however was new, original and perfect for all us teenagers who wanted to grab all you could get at the time and spared you some of the pain of waiting for Thursday nights when TOTPīs was aired. Music videos took on a different meaning, some crap, mediocre and others downright ingenious. MT USA aired on Sundays didnīt it from about 15:00 til 18:00 ???? I remember it was long and I always did my best to get home from hockey practice or something and eat the Sunday roast and finish the ecker in order to sit down in peace to watch the whole thing without getting hassled. Only one TV per household in those days. Nik Kershaw was a good guitarist....Howard Jones was an excellent synth player. Both quite boppy AND talented. Fab Vinny ( RIP)....another good guy....did a lot to broaden musical awareness and tastes in Oirland. Good show at the time and for me stands alongside all my Grove, School, Sing Out and Battle of the Bands memories of the 80īs... QUESTION: Can anyone name or think of a Music Video that stands out in their memory ??? ME
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Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 02-January-2007 at 22:49
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From that show? Styx...Desert Moon...must have played it every week. Plus loads of ZZ Top-in particular Gimme all you Lovin' Talking Heads sticks out for some reason...and she was... Queen Radio Ga GA... John Fogarty...Old Man is down the Road (one for Biker Pat) Van Halen Jump...another weekly play... Good show! ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 02-January-2007 at 22:55
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He always played "love is a battlefield" by Pat Benatar and "Girls just wanna have fun" by Cindy Lauper - but I think the most played would have to have been "Billie Jean"???. ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 02-January-2007 at 23:54
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Do you remember 'Fine,Fine Day (for a re-union)'? Tony Carey...great song.He did a spell with Rainbow. I have a vague memory of that,too. Hey-what an anthem for our tribute nights!!! ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 03-January-2007 at 00:00
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Remember Tony Carey alright -hmm, song escapes me but like many I reckon I'd know it instantly if I heard it.... ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 03-January-2007 at 00:06
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It went... 'When my Uncle sonny blew back into town, He said he'd go for a ride,take a look around, He called out for a taxi cab-take me down to Central Park, And keep that meter running til the twenty dollar mark. It's a fine,fine day,for a re-union-it's a fine fine day for coming home.' Yes?No? ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |
Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 03-January-2007 at 00:08
Hmm, nope. Not really. But the lyrics sound very familiar! See what ya mean about an 'anthem' song!!!  ------------- TPFKAB (The Poster Formerly Known As Brunswick). |
Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 03-January-2007 at 11:27
Don't think that was Styx, wasn't it Denis somebody or other ??? Remember Money for Nothing and Walk of Life from MTUSA.
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Posted By: Polaris
Date Posted: 03-January-2007 at 13:25
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Didn't MTUSA have a very fine Rory Gallagher theme tune? Was it "Follow Me" from Top Priority?
One thing I remember from MTUSA was that they would play a number of videos from a single artist back to back. In particular I can recall them playing ZZ Top triple plays and lots of Bryan Adams and Van Halen - probably the biggest selling albums of the time. I agree with Mins - in pre-MTV Ireland it certainly brightened up Sunday affo! |
Posted By: Esthalon
Date Posted: 03-January-2007 at 14:33
Rolo, You're right. It was Dennis de Young (Swoon) I had a big crush on him in his blue check shirt. What was I thinking!!!! MTUSA was the business in it's day. I used to Love Vincent Hanley's triple plays. ------------- Smoke me a kipper I'll be back for Breakfast! |
Posted By: crusty
Date Posted: 03-January-2007 at 17:08
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Vincent Hanley? He was great. I always remember him playing ZZ Top videos with those sexy ladies in them. Used to give me the prepubescent horns! The sexy ladies not Vincent Hanley!!! Do you remember when he played the full length video of Thriller for the first time? A moment that will stay with me to the end! ------------- I'm not even supposed to be here today! |
Posted By: Esthalon
Date Posted: 03-January-2007 at 17:44
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Yeah ZZ Top had some great videos. He used to play "Legs" a lot alright plus "Gimme all your Lovin'", "Sharp Dressed Man", and "TV Dinners". You must've loved Dave Lee Roth's "Hot for Teacher" so I remember being poised with a video tape ready to record any good videos, I think my fav at the time wasn't much of a video but loved the song....Bruce Springsteen The River, he played a lot of Bruce. You've really got me reminiscing on MT USA now. Any one else have any memories of Videos played?
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Posted By: Mins
Date Posted: 03-January-2007 at 18:15
Desert Moon....YES, YES...of course.... 
I remember it now..gosh..am humming it with tears in the eyes...wow... Another one was " Donīt answer me"..Alan Parsonīs Project... Do u remember that one ??? a kindof Dick Tracy cartoon style, drawing board vid. I LOVED that one...LOVED IT!!!!!!
Hit it on YOUTUBE to reminise and njoy all over again... Gosh I am sad all over and over............... ME 
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Posted By: Floyd
Date Posted: 03-January-2007 at 21:42
Yes-you are all so right and I stand corrected. But Dennis de Young was the lead singer from Styx... ------------- There are three kinds of people in the world,those who are able to count,and those who can't... |
Posted By: Esthalon
Date Posted: 03-January-2007 at 23:24
Deadly - So we're all right!  ------------- Smoke me a kipper I'll be back for Breakfast! |
Posted By: Mins
Date Posted: 06-January-2007 at 15:45
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Gosh Almighty...
Canīt get that Dennis deYoung tune out of my head now since it was mentioned... Hum,hum, sing, sing, weep, weep.... Now you have got me thinking about a certain guy I met whilst in the USA who drove one of those big DODGE trucks you see everywhere and in the video... ( myself and himself were officially taking a rest from one another so it was ok !!!!!!!!!!!!)...... I lived in a Desert Moon style town complete with white clapperboard houses. Most of the guys drove trucks and wore baseball caps and always had coolers of beers in the trunk. We had a railway just like that where the big TransAm trains would whistle through. My favourite food was a Chicken Salad Sub. Fav. beer was Bud Dry and favourite fags Malboro Menthol. Drove a Pontiac Lemans Sport Coupe..ancient boat with white leather seats. Insured it using my Irish Provisional Licence..remember the grey book thing with loads of pages tumbling down..what a laugh. Shared an apt with three other Irish students. We had a resident stalker too, looked like an ex Vietnam head, complete with military gear, used to stare at my friend and I sunbathing on the roof. Told the cops and they said ..."Oh are you those Irish guys on Main St. always having parties"...hmmmm. Guy was known and apparently harmless although a little unnerving for us. yep..Desert Moon... Amazing how an association can conjure up all sorts of things and find, seek out memories you had long forgotten. Ah the summer of the J1 visas and all other things illegal..... ME
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Posted By: Black Russian
Date Posted: 15-January-2007 at 14:44
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MT-USA Those were the days and like the rest of you I remember ZZTOP all their Elimator singles and videos were played and then a couple of the Afterburner videos...OOOOH the women in that Also Pat Benatar, Bruce "The Boss" Springsteen and also don't forget our own boys U2 were played a lot on it. I didn't have the luxary of owning a video recorder those days but in my never ending search of U2 videos I have come accross footage of a U2 Back 2 Back Trax from MTUSA.. As for Howard Jones I was also a fan of his and I have his album at home on Vinyl. He played on Live Aid only one song those "Hide and Seek" great song "There was a time when there was nothing at al Nothing at all, just a distant hum" P |
Posted By: Esthalon
Date Posted: 15-January-2007 at 15:01
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...There was a being and he lived on his own, he had no one to talk to and nothing to do..... I was a HJ fan too! Jeez....Pat Bentar, Love is a Battlefied, there's a blast from the past. You're dead right that was a regular on MTUSA, remember it well. ------------- Smoke me a kipper I'll be back for Breakfast! |
Posted By: Black Russian
Date Posted: 15-January-2007 at 15:43
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"There was a time when there was nothing at al Nothing at all, just a distant hum"..... And then came teh sound of Rock from the Grove and broke that distant hum.. P |
Posted By: Mins
Date Posted: 15-January-2007 at 16:30
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Absolutely....
I heard that "distant hum" in the SFX... leaping all over the shop so he was in his bright orange jumpsuit and kios boots.... Great Concert...Humans Lib..have it on vinyl myself and I do play it a lot still... Good old HOJO. Mise. |