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Topic: Remembering John
Posted By: Fester
Subject: Remembering John
Date Posted: 08-December-2007 at 11:47

27 Years, feels like yesterday.

White Album blaring out here this morning and the kids jumping around the house to it, still sounds great!

RIP John



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Posted By: Evangeline
Date Posted: 08-December-2007 at 12:40

He's sadly missed. Always maintained that guy shot the wrong beatle. Should have taken out McCartney instead...purely for The Frog Song!

Jen



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Posted By: Vinyl Junkie
Date Posted: 09-December-2007 at 23:14

Very sad!

Was the 8th December a Monday in 1980, does anyone remember?  I think it was - just remember going to work on that particular day with literally tears in my eyes...such a waste....

 

Edit: Just checked.  8 December was a Tuesday.



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Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 09-December-2007 at 23:21
I was in 5th year in school and when I heard he was dead on the news I refused to go to school......fair play to my parents they knew I was (still am) a big Beatles fan and let me stay at home. Played Beatles and John Lennon albums all day long and watch the news.......have to admit I cryed too. 

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Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 11-December-2007 at 21:55

I remember this so well.

When I worked in Aer Lingus we'd have break up days at Christmas.

The year John died I was in the Central Bar in Swords, as it was then, and there were guys playing John Lennon and Beatles songs all night.

It was truly magical evening as well as emotional.


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Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 11-December-2007 at 21:57

I've been around awhile and John Lennon to me is one of the truly great rock 'n roll legends.

He had an aura of greatness about him that few artists have.






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Posted By: Fester
Date Posted: 11-December-2007 at 22:53

Think I mentioned it before on here, but one of my proudest memories from schooldays is wearing a black armband in on the day Lennon died. Got unbelievable stick for it (was only 14) but didn't give a $hit and am delighted now looking back.

Here's a rare Beatles nugget for all Fab Four Fans.

Only 2 minutes long but you can't just watch it once!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz7IjXu0DfQ



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I could have played for Ireland (if it wasn't for the booze and the birds)


Posted By: joey the lips
Date Posted: 12-December-2007 at 09:25
fair play to u Fester ,have to say i think John Lennon struck a chord with everybody from that time,what a waste of a life,but then again ,,only the good die young ???

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Posted By: Uncle Arthur
Date Posted: 12-December-2007 at 13:28

I was very sad when John died but as a longstanding Beatles fan I struggle with the "John was genius and Paul wasn't" bandwagon that has been around for years.

Misty eyed emotion for talented people who died young and became icons posthumously often warps perspective, and those who suffer in comparison are their peers.

Paul was just as great and influential as John, if not more so. 

 

 



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"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity but an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty"





Posted By: Aries
Date Posted: 12-December-2007 at 13:46

For anyone interested

"Imagine " can be played on the piano using the black keys only.



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Posted By: DAYO
Date Posted: 12-December-2007 at 16:51
Cant believe it 27 years. Myself and 1265 used to listen to Imagine over and over when I bought that LP. How sad

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Posted By: Fester
Date Posted: 12-December-2007 at 17:12

Uncle Arthur you speak the truth.  McCartney was just as cutting edge as Lennon in the 60's and if anything he was more adventurous and experimental during those times than Lennon.  (Still doesnt excuse the Frog Chorus though

 

Peoples judgement on Lennon often omits the fact that his later stuff was very weak and twee.

Nothing like popping off early to enhance the legend (Elvis, Kurt Cobain, Phil Lynnott, etc etc).



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I could have played for Ireland (if it wasn't for the booze and the birds)


Posted By: Uncle Arthur
Date Posted: 12-December-2007 at 20:05

Can't help but think that if Lennon had lived we now view him as a weird old hermit who was once part of the best band in the world.

 



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Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 13-December-2007 at 22:12

Don't disagree with Mc Cartney comments above but Lennon had a different aura, more so after Beatles broke up.


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May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride.



Biker Pat



Grove 1972-1975


Posted By: Uncle Arthur
Date Posted: 14-December-2007 at 01:31

Did he really have the aura at the time Pat, or is that a respective view?



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Posted By: Fester
Date Posted: 14-December-2007 at 09:21
I think I know what you mean Pat, some people just have that special charismatic glow, whereas you can imagine having a pint and watching a match with McCartney, he's more everday ordinary.  The great Rock and Pop stars are always a bit more "other worldly".  Touched by genius, gifted, whatever you want to call it, sets them apart.  Still think that dieng young can be a great career move for some of them though, at the risk of alienating half the board, I never got Kurt Cobains magic - maybe its a generation gap  

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I could have played for Ireland (if it wasn't for the booze and the birds)


Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 14-December-2007 at 11:39
I always thought that Paul was sweet and John was sour....so they complement each other perfectly.........but on their own they missed the balance they gave each other.

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Posted By: Rolo
Date Posted: 14-December-2007 at 11:48

Originally posted by Bluebell Bluebell wrote:

I always thought that Paul was sweet and John was sour....so they complement each other perfectly.........but on their own they missed the balance they gave each other.

I think you've hit it on the head there Bluebell. Wouldn't call myself a mega fan, I do like a lot of their stuff but never really had an opinion as to whetheor not John was more inmprtant than Paul or vice versa.

What I will say is that Post Beatles, John's stuff is ( IMHO ) far superior to Paul's.

Never really took to Wings and as for some of the other tripe......



Posted By: Black Russian
Date Posted: 14-December-2007 at 11:51

I was never a Beatles fan or Lennon or McCartney fan so I am unable to submit any type of comment . But I kind of have to agree with Uncle Arthur(I can't believe I am) but if Lennon was alive would he be held in such high regard ? The same could be said for Kurt Cobain,

P


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Posted By: Biker Pat
Date Posted: 14-December-2007 at 23:38
Originally posted by Uncle Arthur Uncle Arthur wrote:

Did he really have the aura at the time Pat, or is that a respective view?



He just touched a nerve in me, like when I saw "Easy Rider" for the first time. I got a motorbike after seeing that film and still have.

It's hard to explain and in no way am I downgrading the other Beatle members, but Lennon hit a chord with me in that he always appeared to have his feet on the ground and sang about issues at the time.

I loved his look, voice and attitude.




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May be going to hell in a bucket but at least I'm enjoying the ride.



Biker Pat



Grove 1972-1975


Posted By: Bluebell
Date Posted: 15-December-2007 at 01:18
Pat........it was the same for me  John was and always will be the Working Class Hero. 

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Posted By: Uncle Arthur
Date Posted: 16-December-2007 at 17:13

I hear what you both say but personally I still don't get him. I've never fallen for the working class hero angle.

I always found McCartney more accessible and thought he had more talent. I also disagree with the view that Lennon's material post the Beatles is better than McCartney's. I think the Wings stuff is much underated. 



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UA

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity but an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty"






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