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    Posted: 22-July-2007 at 21:14
9:30 on RTE 1 - worth watching!
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Agree Gary, lived three minutes walk away,remember it too well also.

 Thankfully was too young and not into that kind of music or else......

Did know one or two of the poor people who never came home.

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Remember that, we were just kids. My parents were out with another couple that night who happened to run an ambulance service,needless to say the night was cut short as every available ambulance was needed.

Won't be able to watch the documentary, not sure I would really want to either I would find it too sad. Was the fire an accident/arson?

We didn't know anyone lost,but that must have been awful for those who did. It could so easily have been the Grove

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I agree, Gary. I wouldn't watch it on principle. There has been enough heartache.
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I remember the Stardust well lots of my friends includin my boyfriend at the time was there.

Thankfully they did all make it home but some of them quite seriously injured and had to spend months in hospital after.

Can remember the mornin after as if it was yesterday sitting at breakfast table listenin to the news just awful.

No mobiles in those days so difficult to contact people and find out if they where ok.

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I couldnt bring myself to watch it. Too much sadness, will never forget the day after So many people crying and in shock.
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Yeh it was terrible finno.

We went up to the mater to visit a good friend andy ,he went back in to help other people out and had been severly burnt.

never forget it we walked straight passed him in ward he was unrecognisable.

loads of people just wondering around trying to find friends was awful.

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That b-----d Butterly had the 'grand opening' of the new Silver Swan on Febuary 14th...the man has no tact or respect-and probably no brain cells.
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In answer to your question, Freebird. The original government enquiry ruled that it was 'probable arson' which gave Butterley the green light to make a claim. He received 3 million pounds to rebuild his little empire. The families and victims had to fight tooth and nail for the compensation they got, which was little enough.

26 years on, these people are still fighting for a new enquiry as so much evidence was omitted from the original one which is thought to have been started by a faulty heating system. Why the government won't go ahead with it and give them closure is beyond me.

As for Butterly, I don't know how he sleeps at night.

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I never knew any of that Jen. You can only hope that with the documentary going to air on TV it may prompt another inquiry and the truth will come out.

Cant believe he got 3 million!
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Christ, I´ll never forget the time of the Stardust as long as I live. I went to work the day after, not knowing about the fire and when I got there  two  of my workmates were standing next to the radio. One of them, George, was black from head to toe and I laughed when I saw him and asked him had they no bath in his house. Then they told me about the fire. George had been down at the Stardust most of the night looking for his sister. He found her luckily, uninjured apart from smoke inhalation.
It was a terrible time.
It was also the end of us putting our coats down behind the seats in The Grove.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kbannon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-July-2007 at 14:27
Originally posted by Evangeline Evangeline wrote:

Why the government won't go ahead with it and give them closure is beyond me.


One does indeed wonder:
http://ireland.indymedia.org/article/74347
http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2006/02/12/story11713.as p
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I worked with some of the Butterly family.

They're horrible people who believe they're above the rest of us. All I can say is I'm glad I was never an employee of theirs. They treat their staff like sh*t. They have an attitude that they are the real victims of the Stardust cos they lost a nightclub!!!!!

 

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Vaguely remember the stardust happening, a fella in school with me at the time - both his sisters had been there, but had left early and avoided the fire.

Reading through Killian's links, it's a bit like Hillsborough - there but for the grace of god and all that. A few of us on here were at 1983 All Ireland and how nobody was killed I don't know - and yet we all just assumed that it was safe. That "somebody" wouldn't let it happen. That it was just  one of them things.

I've been in a few crowded clubs in my time, and if something had gone up, heaven forbid. How many cigarettes have the members of this site collectively put out on carpets in clubs, for example. How often have we had to squeeze our way in somewhere. How rarely have we reviewed the fire exits?

It's not pleasant to think about, as you'd never go anywhere if you let it prey on the mind too much.

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Knew loads of folk from Edenmore that were killed that night! Remember a friend Laura back then having to leave the class as her cousins from Edenmore were killed.

What a sad sad occasion in our history.

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Originally posted by freebird freebird wrote:

I never knew any of that Jen. You can only hope that with the documentary going to air on TV it may prompt another inquiry and the truth will come out.

Cant believe he got 3 million!


This a repeat when shown last year there was a bit more publicity but that trailed away.
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I always check the fire exits when I'm in a room with a big crowd.....even last Saturday night I was checking out the fire exits in the Shieling. Robbie also knew a few people killed in the Stardust.....please god nothing like that ever happens again.
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Originally posted by freebird freebird wrote:

I never knew any of that Jen. You can only hope that with the documentary going to air on TV it may prompt another inquiry and the truth will come out.

Cant believe he got 3 million!

 

You should read the book "They Never Came Home". Harrowing stuff, but it tells the full story.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kbannon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-July-2007 at 21:43
Originally posted by finno finno wrote:


This a repeat when shown last year there was a bit more publicity but that trailed away.

Last year was the 25th anniversary of the tragedy so there was bound to be media attention. Combine that with the bastard butterly's plan to re-open the silver swan on the very night of the 25th anniversary the campaign made sure that the media latched onto it.
However, as with all media stories, the attention soon drifts onto something else. Look at the Joe O'Reilly trial - yesterday's Indo had about 20 pages on it. Give it a week and there will be nothing more written about it.
Doesn't mean though that it all gets forgotten!
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